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It's toe the government line or else... As if 2003 and WMDs is ancient history. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

amanaplanacanal 5y ago
I may be wrong, but it feels like the same party that was pushing the WMD theory is now pushing the antivax and no mask line.
- mc32 5y ago
  As they say, it's "complicated". Antivaxxers by and large, used to be highly educated people (PhDs) and leaned dem. Now it's the opposite. The neo-cons who advanced the accusation of WMDs are now supporters of Biden. And, interestingly majorities in _both_ parties support the withdrawal from AF. So, it's not straightforward as you may wish.
  - rualca 5y ago
    Can you back any of your assertions with any reference? Other than everyone wanting the war in Afghanistan to end ASAP, every single one of your statements is.... Peculiar.
    - ender341341 5y ago
      Anti-vaxxers were predominantly educated liberals until a few years ago and it seems with Covid it's flipped pretty fast, but with multiple outbreaks of easily preventable diseases over the last few years a lot of that crowd started seeing the value in vaccines. His statement of neo-cons supporting Biden could definitely use some sources, at least if it's in any way that's not just "Never Trump"
      - vimacs2 5y ago
        I don't see much connection there. Anti-vaxxers were (and in fact still are) predominantly wealthy white people but that's a function of having an excess of free time and lack of first hand experience with much death or infectious disease, not political leanings.
- holdupnow 5y ago
  You're not wrong. Everyone is thinking it but nobody is saying it out of fear of becoming an outcast
- vimacs2 5y ago
  You are in fact wrong. It was the CIA and the military-industrial complex invested in plundering Iraq that pushed the WMD theory and the resulting war was something with bipartisan support in the USA - liberals and conservatives alike. Not a fan of antivaxxers but I'm even less of a fan of liberals attempting to whitewash recent history to make themselves look more reasonable.
  - rualca 5y ago
    > You are in fact wrong. I recall seeing George W Bush and Colin Powell repeatedly pushing for military intervention using WMDs as the excuse. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6WuTSTyS8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6WuTSTyS8
- Dwelve 5y ago
  I'd say the side that says you're siding with the enemy if you disagree with them is the problem. "You're either with us or with the terrorists" "You're either for lockdowns or for the virus"
lostlogin 5y ago
> As if 2003 and WMDs is ancient history. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. There weren’t good intentions where 2003 and WMDs were concerned.
- dredmorbius 5y ago
  Nor now with the antivax / antimask disinformation, propaganda, and hysteria.

amanaplanacanal 5y ago

I may be wrong, but it feels like the same party that was pushing the WMD theory is now pushing the antivax and no mask line.

mc32 5y ago
As they say, it's "complicated". Antivaxxers by and large, used to be highly educated people (PhDs) and leaned dem. Now it's the opposite. The neo-cons who advanced the accusation of WMDs are now supporters of Biden. And, interestingly majorities in _both_ parties support the withdrawal from AF. So, it's not straightforward as you may wish.
- rualca 5y ago
  Can you back any of your assertions with any reference? Other than everyone wanting the war in Afghanistan to end ASAP, every single one of your statements is.... Peculiar.
  - ender341341 5y ago
    Anti-vaxxers were predominantly educated liberals until a few years ago and it seems with Covid it's flipped pretty fast, but with multiple outbreaks of easily preventable diseases over the last few years a lot of that crowd started seeing the value in vaccines. His statement of neo-cons supporting Biden could definitely use some sources, at least if it's in any way that's not just "Never Trump"
    - vimacs2 5y ago
      I don't see much connection there. Anti-vaxxers were (and in fact still are) predominantly wealthy white people but that's a function of having an excess of free time and lack of first hand experience with much death or infectious disease, not political leanings.
holdupnow 5y ago
You're not wrong. Everyone is thinking it but nobody is saying it out of fear of becoming an outcast
vimacs2 5y ago
You are in fact wrong. It was the CIA and the military-industrial complex invested in plundering Iraq that pushed the WMD theory and the resulting war was something with bipartisan support in the USA - liberals and conservatives alike. Not a fan of antivaxxers but I'm even less of a fan of liberals attempting to whitewash recent history to make themselves look more reasonable.
- rualca 5y ago
  > You are in fact wrong. I recall seeing George W Bush and Colin Powell repeatedly pushing for military intervention using WMDs as the excuse. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6WuTSTyS8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6WuTSTyS8
Dwelve 5y ago
I'd say the side that says you're siding with the enemy if you disagree with them is the problem. "You're either with us or with the terrorists" "You're either for lockdowns or for the virus"

lostlogin 5y ago

> As if 2003 and WMDs is ancient history. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. There weren’t good intentions where 2003 and WMDs were concerned.

dredmorbius 5y ago
Nor now with the antivax / antimask disinformation, propaganda, and hysteria.