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And you're skipping the part where I never said it was a better system, just that it is your recourse if you live in a completely unorganized (or unjust) societ
by quantumBerry 5y ago
And you're skipping the part where I never said it was a better system, just that it is your recourse if you live in a completely unorganized (or unjust) society.
- viraptor 5y agoI'm not saying you presented it as better. Just that the idea is moot. If you can use vigilante justice, then everyone can do the opposite. It's just not a realistic option where you have the chance to "recover" something. The thing was never "stolen" in that world, because taking things from others is how that world would work.
- quantumBerry 5y agoProperty rights can exist in a world without formal government. Primates have innate understanding of fairness. The idea of ownership of something predates the system of judge and jury, modern government, and even the presence of humans [1]. If someone takes your personal property, you have the right to take it back. It needn't be recognized by some formal entity. People can already "do the opposite." Hooded men in the middle of the night could try to take your possessions. The odds the police will show up in time is slim; at least in the US especially in rural areas your only chance is to take retaining your possessions in your own hands. Removing governmental restraint just prevents you from being convicted in court if you act directly instead of using the gun of a policeman. This is why in places like Texas is it legal to shoot someone for trespassing on your land and taking your property; some would argue that should extend to your virtual property such as bitcoin. [1] See citations regarding primate behavior ("property in primates") in https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/214043811.pdf https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/214043811.pdf