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>Dogma implies a shared set of principles that are followed without question. FWIW, Merriam Webster defines dogma as a point of view or tenet put forth as auth

>Dogma implies a shared set of principles that are followed without question. FWIW, Merriam Webster defines dogma as a point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds. That's the definition I was using, that I thought was more colloquial. Simply holding a strongly help opinion on shaky grounds is dogmatic. I don't believe that definition is at odds with what I'm describing.

danenania 5y ago
Um, you cherry-picked a single bullet point out of that definition, and not even the first one. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dogma https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dogma 1a. something held as an established opinion, especially a definite authoritative tenet. 1b. a code of such tenets. 1c. a point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds. 2. a doctrine or body of doctrines concerning faith or morals formally stated and authoritatively proclaimed by a church. Also, when has Joe Rogan ever claimed, or even implied, that his beliefs are "authoritative"? He constantly does the opposite.
- nemothekid 5y ago
  Even if I cherry picked the one I thought was most clearest, none of them are even imply a shared set of principles that are followed without question, nor do any of the definitions under (1) contradict what I was saying. >Also, when has Joe Rogan ever claimed, or even implied, that his beliefs are "authoritative"? If you literally watch JRE today he does with regards to keto.
  - danenania 5y ago
    He can speak with legitimate authority on diet, exercise, martial arts, and other similar topics. He knows more about those things than 99% of people. The point is he doesn't claim authority on topics related to politics and science where he's out of his depth, or at least does it a lot less often than typical partisan commentators. You seem to be reading a different definition than I am, but ok /shrug.

danenania 5y ago

Um, you cherry-picked a single bullet point out of that definition, and not even the first one. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dogma https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dogma 1a. something held as an established opinion, especially a definite authoritative tenet. 1b. a code of such tenets. 1c. a point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds. 2. a doctrine or body of doctrines concerning faith or morals formally stated and authoritatively proclaimed by a church. Also, when has Joe Rogan ever claimed, or even implied, that his beliefs are "authoritative"? He constantly does the opposite.

nemothekid 5y ago
Even if I cherry picked the one I thought was most clearest, none of them are even imply a shared set of principles that are followed without question, nor do any of the definitions under (1) contradict what I was saying. >Also, when has Joe Rogan ever claimed, or even implied, that his beliefs are "authoritative"? If you literally watch JRE today he does with regards to keto.
- danenania 5y ago
  He can speak with legitimate authority on diet, exercise, martial arts, and other similar topics. He knows more about those things than 99% of people. The point is he doesn't claim authority on topics related to politics and science where he's out of his depth, or at least does it a lot less often than typical partisan commentators. You seem to be reading a different definition than I am, but ok /shrug.