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There should be a cap on wages globally. Either money and wealth and output are finite. In which case you earning 715k is roughly 9x what you should be allocate

There should be a cap on wages globally. Either money and wealth and output are finite. In which case you earning 715k is roughly 9x what you should be allocated as your portion of global wealth. Or limited wealth is a construct of society and we keep people living in poverty because we're just inherently cruel and don't want to pay a living wage as support because we need slaves to make our trinkets. We're a shit species.

hamburgerwah 5y ago
How would such a thing work across distinct sovereign nations and who is it exactly that would decide the caps?
- gtvwill 5y ago
  Lol the same way we control everything else? Through treaties and legislation. Look I'm not saying it's easy and tbh it's not the path I'd take (I'm more for print money give everyone a living wage rather than act using scarcity). I'm just saying given the way economic theory exists atm it's one of the two glaring options for leveling out and fixing the shit levels of inequality that exist at the moment. Or do you think the current situation is acceptable and should be allowed to continue?
  - seattle_spring 5y ago
    It's absolutely bonkers that there are hundred-billionaires out there, yet here you are crusading against people who make high six figures.
  - hamburgerwah 5y ago
    I would say that sovereign countries have the right to determine their own policies. If by "We" you mean the United States we are a massive loser in treaties, we give away much much more than we get. We exert power by having a military 10 times as large as anyone else (and mostly that large by virtue of saving the western world from a Nazi dictatorship) but that margin will cease to exist within the decade and Nazi China will have the worlds largest military and exert the most power and the world will be MUCH worse for it.
seibelj 5y ago
This whole post is so negative and warped. You sound clinically depressed - not everything in the world is shit and neither is humanity.
- pope_meat 5y ago
  Shoot, I must be clinically depressed too, because it seems pretty on point. The optimists must have figured out a good coping strategy for cognitive dissonance. Looking on the bright side is...well, less than half of the full picture, if you ask me.
  - seibelj 5y ago
    There is no better time in the history of humanity to be alive for nearly all people (barring those in war zones / communism). We just cured a novel disease with a vaccine on the order of months, while prior diseases were repeated plagues that killed huge swaths of humanity over millennia. We have so much to be thankful for and so many good things and yet so many are depressed and unhappy.
    - pope_meat 5y ago
      https://www.informationliberation.com/files/deaths-of-despair-2017-study-1.jpg https://www.informationliberation.com/files/deaths-of-despai... It stops at 2017, but the trend is holding still in 2021, so, if the world is truly magical and better than any other time in history, why are we killing ourselves? Maybe I'm wrong, but it certainly seems like there is a problem, while a bunch of people in priveledged positions tell the rest of us to be happy.
- Gunax 5y ago
  It's a terrible idea, but I don't think it's warped or depressed. It's just me veroy idealistic.
andrewmcwatters 5y ago
You're right. I work too much and you probably don't work as hard as I do. I propose you do some of my work so we can cap how much work I do. Shoot me over your email address and we'll make this happen.
innagadadavida 5y ago
You are getting downvoted and that probably proves your point more than your argument. Your argument is really naive, but there is some truth to your conclusion. IMO, the main data point for your argument should be how many animals, plants and humans we have killed as a species and for what purpose? Unless we recognize these failings as a species, we’ll never get out of our delusional bubble of being good and righteous.

hamburgerwah 5y ago

How would such a thing work across distinct sovereign nations and who is it exactly that would decide the caps?

gtvwill 5y ago
Lol the same way we control everything else? Through treaties and legislation. Look I'm not saying it's easy and tbh it's not the path I'd take (I'm more for print money give everyone a living wage rather than act using scarcity). I'm just saying given the way economic theory exists atm it's one of the two glaring options for leveling out and fixing the shit levels of inequality that exist at the moment. Or do you think the current situation is acceptable and should be allowed to continue?
- seattle_spring 5y ago
  It's absolutely bonkers that there are hundred-billionaires out there, yet here you are crusading against people who make high six figures.
- hamburgerwah 5y ago
  I would say that sovereign countries have the right to determine their own policies. If by "We" you mean the United States we are a massive loser in treaties, we give away much much more than we get. We exert power by having a military 10 times as large as anyone else (and mostly that large by virtue of saving the western world from a Nazi dictatorship) but that margin will cease to exist within the decade and Nazi China will have the worlds largest military and exert the most power and the world will be MUCH worse for it.

seibelj 5y ago

This whole post is so negative and warped. You sound clinically depressed - not everything in the world is shit and neither is humanity.

pope_meat 5y ago
Shoot, I must be clinically depressed too, because it seems pretty on point. The optimists must have figured out a good coping strategy for cognitive dissonance. Looking on the bright side is...well, less than half of the full picture, if you ask me.
- seibelj 5y ago
  There is no better time in the history of humanity to be alive for nearly all people (barring those in war zones / communism). We just cured a novel disease with a vaccine on the order of months, while prior diseases were repeated plagues that killed huge swaths of humanity over millennia. We have so much to be thankful for and so many good things and yet so many are depressed and unhappy.
  - pope_meat 5y ago
    https://www.informationliberation.com/files/deaths-of-despair-2017-study-1.jpg https://www.informationliberation.com/files/deaths-of-despai... It stops at 2017, but the trend is holding still in 2021, so, if the world is truly magical and better than any other time in history, why are we killing ourselves? Maybe I'm wrong, but it certainly seems like there is a problem, while a bunch of people in priveledged positions tell the rest of us to be happy.
Gunax 5y ago
It's a terrible idea, but I don't think it's warped or depressed. It's just me veroy idealistic.

andrewmcwatters 5y ago

You're right. I work too much and you probably don't work as hard as I do. I propose you do some of my work so we can cap how much work I do. Shoot me over your email address and we'll make this happen.

innagadadavida 5y ago

You are getting downvoted and that probably proves your point more than your argument. Your argument is really naive, but there is some truth to your conclusion. IMO, the main data point for your argument should be how many animals, plants and humans we have killed as a species and for what purpose? Unless we recognize these failings as a species, we’ll never get out of our delusional bubble of being good and righteous.