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Take a look at Pfizer's R&P charts from the last handful of years. It's hardly made a dent over all. I'm tired of this right wing nonsense on this site that is

Take a look at Pfizer's R&P charts from the last handful of years. It's hardly made a dent over all. I'm tired of this right wing nonsense on this site that is one step away from claiming these companies want to keep the pandemic going for as long as they can. It's complete FUD. It's one dog whistle after another. Go take a look at their stock price chart. I'll wait. They're just now recovering from the 2009 crash and that's in today's inflated dollars. We have too many people who are quick to jump to comment on headlines but who can't look into earnings and revenue reports and see how a company is really performing. EBITDA? Why on earth are you on a forum that specializes in startups and venture funding with this little due diligence? I'm glad the other comment got flagged but this is just a nonsensical dog and pony show for right wingers who are playing coy, grasping at headlines and asking rhetorical "Gee they wouldn't profit off if it would they, fellas?" trying to whistle their way. Despicable, really.

georgiaj 5y ago
"Why on earth are you on a forum that specializes in startups and venture funding with this little due diligence?" You are awfully quick to sling insults with a 37-minute old account. For-profit companies aim to make profits. Pharmaceutical companies make profits from selling pharmaceuticals. This is not controversial nor is it some kind of "dog whistle".
- thickly 5y ago
  I stay away from political poo-slinging on my main account. I'm tired of these threads to be honest, it's like a script that plays out and that's why I'm saying to flag this kind of speech. Go ahead and find something else to pin on me please. Yes, we get it, "non-non-profits make profit" (news at 11). You missed the forest for the trees here buddy boy. The reason why the OP was flagged was because it was inviting a certain kind of rhetoric which seems to allude that these companies are going to try to prolong the pandemic (or make it seem "worse" in some way) for profit gain because "money." We are trying to get through the pandemic and it's hard enough to get people vaccinated. And now this nonsense on HN. We get it - you're woke and us plebs are completely unaware these companies are charging for their products (wow - shock and awe!), and you want to point out some conflict of interest. Except you're doing in such a negative way that it's absolutely obvious there's a political slant here. Just give it up. Ridiculous.
nanis 5y ago
When one makes profit from providing to others who are not compelled to use it a good or service they are not compelled to produce, the "profit" is pure goodness. When the market for a thing exists solely through government action, compulsion, coercion, or cajoling, the same cannot be said. But that is an aside. My comment simply pointed out the tautology that no entity involved in the vaccine food chain has any incentive to acknowledge the strong protection conferred by natural immunity. If you are aware of such incentives, please point them out. If you are aware of big pharma executives pleading with governments not to create panic or use compulsion to increase the vaccination, please do point them out. None of what I said is "right wing nonsense". Simply a sober look at the incentives faced by various entities who have full liability protection from the consequences of any decisions they make.
- thickly 5y ago
  >If you are aware of such incentives, please point them out. If you are aware of big pharma executives pleading with governments not to create panic or use compulsion to increase the vaccination, please do point them out. Are you for real? This is exactly what I'm talking about. "They didn't say anything against it therefore they are doing it. And show me that they did say something against it." Wow. Checkmate, round of applause. Nice zinger mate. I guess burden of proof is on the accused. I didn't get the memo about that. I would expect this sort of rhetoric elsewhere, but I figured HN was more level-headed. Honestly, go spread your FUD elsewhere. This is exactly why your opening comment was flagged. It's an open invitation for right-wing rhetoric that lacks any further thinking than "Well gee, the headline says they made $22B from the pandemic, I guess they must be filthy rich off of this!". Read a balance sheet. It will do you some good.
  - nanis 5y ago
    AFAIK, Pfizer is actually mandating previously infected employees to get vaccinated. Not FUD. > "Well gee, the headline says they made $22B from the pandemic, I guess they must be filthy rich off of this!". There is a difference between having something to lose from acknowledging that previously infected individuals have strong protection against Covid19 and the way you make it sound. > Read a balance sheet. It will do you some good. I have. Some very deeply. Thank you very much for your concern.

georgiaj 5y ago

"Why on earth are you on a forum that specializes in startups and venture funding with this little due diligence?" You are awfully quick to sling insults with a 37-minute old account. For-profit companies aim to make profits. Pharmaceutical companies make profits from selling pharmaceuticals. This is not controversial nor is it some kind of "dog whistle".

thickly 5y ago
I stay away from political poo-slinging on my main account. I'm tired of these threads to be honest, it's like a script that plays out and that's why I'm saying to flag this kind of speech. Go ahead and find something else to pin on me please. Yes, we get it, "non-non-profits make profit" (news at 11). You missed the forest for the trees here buddy boy. The reason why the OP was flagged was because it was inviting a certain kind of rhetoric which seems to allude that these companies are going to try to prolong the pandemic (or make it seem "worse" in some way) for profit gain because "money." We are trying to get through the pandemic and it's hard enough to get people vaccinated. And now this nonsense on HN. We get it - you're woke and us plebs are completely unaware these companies are charging for their products (wow - shock and awe!), and you want to point out some conflict of interest. Except you're doing in such a negative way that it's absolutely obvious there's a political slant here. Just give it up. Ridiculous.

nanis 5y ago

When one makes profit from providing to others who are not compelled to use it a good or service they are not compelled to produce, the "profit" is pure goodness. When the market for a thing exists solely through government action, compulsion, coercion, or cajoling, the same cannot be said. But that is an aside. My comment simply pointed out the tautology that no entity involved in the vaccine food chain has any incentive to acknowledge the strong protection conferred by natural immunity. If you are aware of such incentives, please point them out. If you are aware of big pharma executives pleading with governments not to create panic or use compulsion to increase the vaccination, please do point them out. None of what I said is "right wing nonsense". Simply a sober look at the incentives faced by various entities who have full liability protection from the consequences of any decisions they make.

thickly 5y ago
>If you are aware of such incentives, please point them out. If you are aware of big pharma executives pleading with governments not to create panic or use compulsion to increase the vaccination, please do point them out. Are you for real? This is exactly what I'm talking about. "They didn't say anything against it therefore they are doing it. And show me that they did say something against it." Wow. Checkmate, round of applause. Nice zinger mate. I guess burden of proof is on the accused. I didn't get the memo about that. I would expect this sort of rhetoric elsewhere, but I figured HN was more level-headed. Honestly, go spread your FUD elsewhere. This is exactly why your opening comment was flagged. It's an open invitation for right-wing rhetoric that lacks any further thinking than "Well gee, the headline says they made $22B from the pandemic, I guess they must be filthy rich off of this!". Read a balance sheet. It will do you some good.
- nanis 5y ago
  AFAIK, Pfizer is actually mandating previously infected employees to get vaccinated. Not FUD. > "Well gee, the headline says they made $22B from the pandemic, I guess they must be filthy rich off of this!". There is a difference between having something to lose from acknowledging that previously infected individuals have strong protection against Covid19 and the way you make it sound. > Read a balance sheet. It will do you some good. I have. Some very deeply. Thank you very much for your concern.