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The ads on Spotify for paying US users is what keeps me off of it for the most part. You can fast forward but it's a gigantic pain in the ass. Their UX is awfu

The ads on Spotify for paying US users is what keeps me off of it for the most part. You can fast forward but it's a gigantic pain in the ass. Their UX is awful too compared to a simple web app, they should just clone a basic Youtube/Odysee/Rumble functionality for their video side.

dadver 5y ago
Wait, -paying- users get ads in the US? Then why do they pay?
- Covzire 5y ago
  I'm assuming for the privilege of fast forwarding them, but I'm not sure, it's probably the biggest reason I can't feel any affinity for the platform at all. I'm happy to chip in for the service like i do with Youtube Premium, but come on. They're not short ads either, and I think most of them are put in place by Joe Rogan himself because they're often him going on for 2-3 minutes.
- dntrkv 5y ago
  It's only the ads that the podcasters put in themselves. They are not the Spotify ads.
  - ub99 5y ago
    This makes me wonder… would Spotify allow ads in music? Can I upload a music track that has an ad in the middle? Hmm…
    - kingofpandora 5y ago
      I don't have Spotify, but check if The Who Sell Out is there since that has ads in it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_Sell_Out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_Sell_Out
      - ub99 5y ago
        Pretty sure they used fake ads, but it’s a good precedent anyway. Edit: and yes the album is available on Spotify in full.
        FillardMillmore 5y ago
        The whole album was supposed to be a play on a pirate radio station if memory serves, and a damn good one at that. Probably my favorite Who album honestly (besides Live at Leeds, of course).
        cubano 5y ago
        Uhhhh I'd have to take Quadraphenia in any best Who album list...I think I've bought it at least 6 times in like 4 formats and I can still listen to it end-to-end without effort.
        serf 5y ago
        > Pretty sure they used fake ads, but it’s a good precedent anyway. the ads aren't fake.. well, not all of them -- they're included ironically -- and many aspects of that album generated legal issues for the band.[0] [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_Sell_Out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_Sell_Out
    - sellyme 5y ago
      Yes. See also: about half of the rap tracks on the platform, where every third line is product placement.
  - p49k 5y ago
    Even the podcasts that Spotify owns and produces have ads. So in that case they are putting ads in their own podcasts for their own paying customers.
    - paulryanrogers 5y ago
      It does seem like double-dipping. But I imagine they will continue to include more and more advertising until they reached the threshold where people unsubscribe.
  - njovin 5y ago
    It's odd, though, that Rogan's podcast only started doing mid-episode ads after the move to Spotify. Prior to the move the only ads were at the beginning of the episode.
    - paulryanrogers 5y ago
      Maybe analytics indicated that people were skipping the first chunk of the show to avoid the ads. I know that is a common feature of other podcast players.
      - nefitty 5y ago
        Maybe that's one of the benefits of having a podcast on Spotify. They can probably collect fine-grained analytics compared to an RSS-based client.
    - jack_pp 5y ago
      I've never heard ads on Rogan's podcast in the past few years, this might be a US only thing
    - AzzieElbab 5y ago
      It is really weird actually. Not every episode comes with adds. Seems like Spotify is dark launching ab testing
ub99 5y ago
I am surprised you are getting downvoted. Very long ad breaks on paid accounts are unacceptable and the reason I refuse to listen to this podcast.
- ct0 5y ago
  I see a potential feature that spotify could differentiate themselves. Pre-marked ads, and a setting to skip automatically.
xxpor 5y ago
>You can fast forward but it's a gigantic pain in the ass. Does Spotify not support FF == skip 10 seconds forward that every other podcast player does? I have genuinely no idea, but it wouldn't surprise me.
- ub99 5y ago
  These long ads are actually separate tracks, so you can just skip to the end. The pain in the ass aspect comes mostly from the fact that not everyone has the app open in front of them.
  - xxpor 5y ago
    yeah, I was thinking about that in my own podcast listening. For me I guess the reason why I don't care as much is I'm always using headphones with controls or in the car where it's a simple steering wheel button press.
- gmueckl 5y ago
  When playing podcasts, Spotify skips 15 seconds forwards or backwards. When playing music, it skips to the next track or the start of the current track. But you still have to actively skip ads, which is annoying.
  - treesknees 5y ago
    Especially while driving. I've shut off podcasts because I can't sit there listening to the same 2 minute interview-style ad for the 10th time.

dadver 5y ago

Wait, -paying- users get ads in the US? Then why do they pay?

Covzire 5y ago
I'm assuming for the privilege of fast forwarding them, but I'm not sure, it's probably the biggest reason I can't feel any affinity for the platform at all. I'm happy to chip in for the service like i do with Youtube Premium, but come on. They're not short ads either, and I think most of them are put in place by Joe Rogan himself because they're often him going on for 2-3 minutes.
dntrkv 5y ago
It's only the ads that the podcasters put in themselves. They are not the Spotify ads.
- ub99 5y ago
  This makes me wonder… would Spotify allow ads in music? Can I upload a music track that has an ad in the middle? Hmm…
  - kingofpandora 5y ago
    I don't have Spotify, but check if The Who Sell Out is there since that has ads in it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_Sell_Out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_Sell_Out
    - ub99 5y ago
      Pretty sure they used fake ads, but it’s a good precedent anyway. Edit: and yes the album is available on Spotify in full.
      - FillardMillmore 5y ago
        The whole album was supposed to be a play on a pirate radio station if memory serves, and a damn good one at that. Probably my favorite Who album honestly (besides Live at Leeds, of course).
        cubano 5y ago
        Uhhhh I'd have to take Quadraphenia in any best Who album list...I think I've bought it at least 6 times in like 4 formats and I can still listen to it end-to-end without effort.
      - serf 5y ago
        > Pretty sure they used fake ads, but it’s a good precedent anyway. the ads aren't fake.. well, not all of them -- they're included ironically -- and many aspects of that album generated legal issues for the band.[0] [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_Sell_Out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_Sell_Out
  - sellyme 5y ago
    Yes. See also: about half of the rap tracks on the platform, where every third line is product placement.
- p49k 5y ago
  Even the podcasts that Spotify owns and produces have ads. So in that case they are putting ads in their own podcasts for their own paying customers.
  - paulryanrogers 5y ago
    It does seem like double-dipping. But I imagine they will continue to include more and more advertising until they reached the threshold where people unsubscribe.
- njovin 5y ago
  It's odd, though, that Rogan's podcast only started doing mid-episode ads after the move to Spotify. Prior to the move the only ads were at the beginning of the episode.
  - paulryanrogers 5y ago
    Maybe analytics indicated that people were skipping the first chunk of the show to avoid the ads. I know that is a common feature of other podcast players.
    - nefitty 5y ago
      Maybe that's one of the benefits of having a podcast on Spotify. They can probably collect fine-grained analytics compared to an RSS-based client.
  - jack_pp 5y ago
    I've never heard ads on Rogan's podcast in the past few years, this might be a US only thing
  - AzzieElbab 5y ago
    It is really weird actually. Not every episode comes with adds. Seems like Spotify is dark launching ab testing

ub99 5y ago

I am surprised you are getting downvoted. Very long ad breaks on paid accounts are unacceptable and the reason I refuse to listen to this podcast.

ct0 5y ago
I see a potential feature that spotify could differentiate themselves. Pre-marked ads, and a setting to skip automatically.

xxpor 5y ago

>You can fast forward but it's a gigantic pain in the ass. Does Spotify not support FF == skip 10 seconds forward that every other podcast player does? I have genuinely no idea, but it wouldn't surprise me.

ub99 5y ago
These long ads are actually separate tracks, so you can just skip to the end. The pain in the ass aspect comes mostly from the fact that not everyone has the app open in front of them.
- xxpor 5y ago
  yeah, I was thinking about that in my own podcast listening. For me I guess the reason why I don't care as much is I'm always using headphones with controls or in the car where it's a simple steering wheel button press.
gmueckl 5y ago
When playing podcasts, Spotify skips 15 seconds forwards or backwards. When playing music, it skips to the next track or the start of the current track. But you still have to actively skip ads, which is annoying.
- treesknees 5y ago
  Especially while driving. I've shut off podcasts because I can't sit there listening to the same 2 minute interview-style ad for the 10th time.