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That's just a link dump. Is there any evidence that their campaign is linked to the decisions made by OF?

judge2020 5y ago
It's not a link dump, it's sources that aren't condensed HN comments. If you really don't want to read them, maybe read the short Wikipedia excerpt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_Cry#Traffickinghub_campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_Cry#Traffickinghub_camp...
- throwawaylolx 5y ago
  That's about Visa, MasterCard, and PornHub. This thread is about OnlyFans and _banks_, not payment processors. Are banks swayed by religious groups to block payments related to adult materials? Edit: Also even for PornHub, it is alleged that Nicholas Kristof's actions [1] had an important impact on the decisions surrounding PornHub, and Kristof is a self-described progressive who doesn't seem to act on religious grounds, so I don't really see sufficient evidence that religious groups play a significant role at all. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Kristof#Child_pornography_and_nonconsensual_pornography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Kristof#Child_pornogr...
dillondoyle 5y ago
The more direct link is the reporting that hit PornHub and there is plenty of info on these religious / 'moral crusader' groups. The NyTimes link below is opinion but it lays out facts and puts in the context of OF decision. It talks about the original nytimes PornHub op-ed by Kristof and his connections to anti-sex religious groups. I think the rhetoric these groups use is very similar to the CP-as-an-excuse, but their goal ism't simply to remove illegal content (which everyone agrees is bad). It's to curb porn and sex work in general. https://newrepublic.com/article/160488/nick-kristof-holy-war-pornhub https://newrepublic.com/article/160488/nick-kristof-holy-war... https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/24/opinion/onlyfans-porn-sex-workers.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/24/opinion/onlyfans-porn-sex...
- throwawaylolx 5y ago
  Opinion pieces can be framed to dictate whatever narrative the author wishes to promote, and a nice story isn't substitute for evidence.
  - dillondoyle 5y ago
    The original PH article was opinion as well. There are a ton of sources if you care to google, i included the recent NyTimes piece because it does list specific sources.

judge2020 5y ago

It's not a link dump, it's sources that aren't condensed HN comments. If you really don't want to read them, maybe read the short Wikipedia excerpt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_Cry#Traffickinghub_campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_Cry#Traffickinghub_camp...

throwawaylolx 5y ago
That's about Visa, MasterCard, and PornHub. This thread is about OnlyFans and _banks_, not payment processors. Are banks swayed by religious groups to block payments related to adult materials? Edit: Also even for PornHub, it is alleged that Nicholas Kristof's actions [1] had an important impact on the decisions surrounding PornHub, and Kristof is a self-described progressive who doesn't seem to act on religious grounds, so I don't really see sufficient evidence that religious groups play a significant role at all. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Kristof#Child_pornography_and_nonconsensual_pornography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Kristof#Child_pornogr...

dillondoyle 5y ago

The more direct link is the reporting that hit PornHub and there is plenty of info on these religious / 'moral crusader' groups. The NyTimes link below is opinion but it lays out facts and puts in the context of OF decision. It talks about the original nytimes PornHub op-ed by Kristof and his connections to anti-sex religious groups. I think the rhetoric these groups use is very similar to the CP-as-an-excuse, but their goal ism't simply to remove illegal content (which everyone agrees is bad). It's to curb porn and sex work in general. https://newrepublic.com/article/160488/nick-kristof-holy-war-pornhub https://newrepublic.com/article/160488/nick-kristof-holy-war... https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/24/opinion/onlyfans-porn-sex-workers.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/24/opinion/onlyfans-porn-sex...

throwawaylolx 5y ago
Opinion pieces can be framed to dictate whatever narrative the author wishes to promote, and a nice story isn't substitute for evidence.
- dillondoyle 5y ago
  The original PH article was opinion as well. There are a ton of sources if you care to google, i included the recent NyTimes piece because it does list specific sources.