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> One thing could be companies, recruiters, or manager looking for CS or CE degree specifically. Someone who is 60 outdates CS and CE. I'm that old, and I have

> One thing could be companies, recruiters, or manager looking for CS or CE degree specifically. Someone who is 60 outdates CS and CE. I'm that old, and I have an undergrad CS degree. CS degrees were already common in the early 1980s.

kodah 5y ago
I remember around 2007 having a hard time finding colleges I could get accepted to that offered CS or CE. You are right in that "outdates" was probably the wrong word to use, but I don't know how accessible they are much less to call them "common". That's just my anecdotal experience, so if those two points aren't true outside of my experience then I'm fresh out of ideas.
OldHand2018 5y ago
It appears that undergrad CS degrees were a thing by the early 1970s: > 1973 Two-hundred B.S. degrees awarded [1] https://www.cs.purdue.edu/history/table1.html https://www.cs.purdue.edu/history/table1.html PS - Purdue is the oldest CS department in the US, though perhaps another university started an undergrad program earlier?
- fuzzfactor 5y ago
  At UF they had been maintaining and operating the duplicate "backup" full IBM mainframe system for the Apollo program at Cape Canaveral, and offering degree programs for some time by then. At Nova they had the big iron too even though there were only 11 students. There's more to the story on that one.
  - OldHand2018 5y ago
    Great, then a BS in CS existed even earlier?
    - fuzzfactor 5y ago
      Yes, they were graduating and going to work for NASA, Wall Street, insurance companies, military & contractors, IRS and mainly things like that. Nobody small could afford a mainframe.
- ritchie1270 5y ago
  University Of Illinois Urbana-Champaign created the Digital Computer Lab in 1949. It was reorganized into the Department of Computer Science in 1964. In 1965 the College of LAS undergrad degree was established. In 1972 the undergrad degree in College of Engineering was established. I assume within 4 school years of both they issued undergrad degrees. The first graduate degrees were awarded in 1967.

kodah 5y ago

I remember around 2007 having a hard time finding colleges I could get accepted to that offered CS or CE. You are right in that "outdates" was probably the wrong word to use, but I don't know how accessible they are much less to call them "common". That's just my anecdotal experience, so if those two points aren't true outside of my experience then I'm fresh out of ideas.

OldHand2018 5y ago

It appears that undergrad CS degrees were a thing by the early 1970s: > 1973 Two-hundred B.S. degrees awarded [1] https://www.cs.purdue.edu/history/table1.html https://www.cs.purdue.edu/history/table1.html PS - Purdue is the oldest CS department in the US, though perhaps another university started an undergrad program earlier?

fuzzfactor 5y ago
At UF they had been maintaining and operating the duplicate "backup" full IBM mainframe system for the Apollo program at Cape Canaveral, and offering degree programs for some time by then. At Nova they had the big iron too even though there were only 11 students. There's more to the story on that one.
- OldHand2018 5y ago
  Great, then a BS in CS existed even earlier?
  - fuzzfactor 5y ago
    Yes, they were graduating and going to work for NASA, Wall Street, insurance companies, military & contractors, IRS and mainly things like that. Nobody small could afford a mainframe.
ritchie1270 5y ago
University Of Illinois Urbana-Champaign created the Digital Computer Lab in 1949. It was reorganized into the Department of Computer Science in 1964. In 1965 the College of LAS undergrad degree was established. In 1972 the undergrad degree in College of Engineering was established. I assume within 4 school years of both they issued undergrad degrees. The first graduate degrees were awarded in 1967.