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I wonder what you attribute the ageism towards? I wonder what actual or perceived traits trend with age that hiring managers are trying to avoid? I'll venture

I wonder what you attribute the ageism towards? I wonder what actual or perceived traits trend with age that hiring managers are trying to avoid? I'll venture one idea-- Once you have enough experience you start to be able to see the emperor has no clothes situations. Not being naively positive about everything can be interpreted as being overly negative (at least in the bay area). Funny enough it might just be the "negative" ones are more accurate (Depressive Realism) .

cmiles74 5y ago
When I'm feeling generous, I would guess the company doesn't want to spend the money required to compensate people with that level of experience.
- SkyMarshal 5y ago
  Or ungenerously, they think all engineers are interchangeable and don't realize there may be a difference in code quality between different levels of experience, so why not just get the cheapest ones you can.
- ido 5y ago
  As a 38 years old who has worked as a software developer since age 18...I'd say software developer salaries really plateau long before you're 60. You make "senior" after about 5-10 years of job experience, and not everyone makes principal or director (or CTO).
- jpindar 5y ago
  Which is in itself a kind of prejudice, assuming I'm going to demand more money.
- pirate787 5y ago
  That's not the issue, as an older dev I'm willing to work for the industry standard wage. Sr. Engineer is Sr. Engineer.
conductr 5y ago
My experience is it has everything to do with the non-work part of work. Diversity isn’t really the goal, the goal is building a team who has fun happy hours, eats breakfast lunch and dinner together, off-sites with passport, knows the latest beers/whiskey/alcohol du jour. There’s a reason you don’t see many 30 year old single moms in the sorority. It’s just not a good “fit”.

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I wonder what you attribute the ageism towards? I wonder what actual or perceived traits trend with age that hiring managers are trying to avoid? I'll venture

by maerF0x0 5y ago

cmiles74 5y ago
When I'm feeling generous, I would guess the company doesn't want to spend the money required to compensate people with that level of experience.
- SkyMarshal 5y ago
  Or ungenerously, they think all engineers are interchangeable and don't realize there may be a difference in code quality between different levels of experience, so why not just get the cheapest ones you can.
- ido 5y ago
  As a 38 years old who has worked as a software developer since age 18...I'd say software developer salaries really plateau long before you're 60. You make "senior" after about 5-10 years of job experience, and not everyone makes principal or director (or CTO).
- jpindar 5y ago
  Which is in itself a kind of prejudice, assuming I'm going to demand more money.
- pirate787 5y ago
  That's not the issue, as an older dev I'm willing to work for the industry standard wage. Sr. Engineer is Sr. Engineer.
conductr 5y ago
My experience is it has everything to do with the non-work part of work. Diversity isn’t really the goal, the goal is building a team who has fun happy hours, eats breakfast lunch and dinner together, off-sites with passport, knows the latest beers/whiskey/alcohol du jour. There’s a reason you don’t see many 30 year old single moms in the sorority. It’s just not a good “fit”.