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Damn, and I thought I've had to take my 13" 2016 Pro in for a lot of repairs. There's a design flaw that makes it chew through batteries every 8-16 months and I

Damn, and I thought I've had to take my 13" 2016 Pro in for a lot of repairs. There's a design flaw that makes it chew through batteries every 8-16 months and I just had to have a week-long involuntary vacation while they shipped it off to a repair center in another case, where the entire top half of the case got replaced for the third time. This is the most expensive Mac I've owned in like 18y of using the things, even before I count the fact that only one of those battery replacements happened before the extended warranty ran out, and estimate the cost of several unplanned vacations. My next machine will probably be a 2022 Air; I had a succession of Intel Airs that gave me very little trouble before this battery-devouring Pro. I'm hoping their solidity has survived the transition to Apple silicon.

asdff 5y ago
I think its absurd that apple stopped doing a lot of repairs in store, but still doesn't offer you a loaner computer imaged from yours. Clearly, people are using these computers for work.
scns 5y ago
Charging the battery over 80% produces more heat and degradesvits lifetime, did you ran it plugged in all the time? My phones manufacturer stops at 90 but i installed an alarm to pull the plug earlier.
- egypturnash 5y ago
  I ran it exactly the same way I ran the several Mac laptops that preceded it: unplugged in cafes, unplugged in parks, and closed while plugged into the external monitor on my desk. It’s rare for it to spend more than a couple days plugged in, even during the pandemic. The exact same usage pattern that produced a slow, multi-year decline in battery capacity in every other machine resulted in the 2016 Pro suddenly starting to shut down completely while it thought 20-60% of the battery capacity remained. SMC/PRAM resets did nothing, “recalibration” did nothing. 2016 Pros eat batteries, and while Apple acknowledged this enough to pay for one battery replacement, they’ve still hit me for an annoyingly large amount of repair cost, plus downtime, plus the annoyance of work lost due to unexpected shutdowns before I say “oh god it’s doing this again” and start getting insanely aggressive about saving.
  - scns 5y ago
    My comment my have been read like trying to blaming it on you, that was the opposite of my intention. I think all computers with Li-Ion batteries should have user accessible charging limits, like Tuxedo and Thinkpads have. For now we have to help ourselves with software, i use BatteryBot Pro from f-droid on my Android devices. (edit) formatting

asdff 5y ago

I think its absurd that apple stopped doing a lot of repairs in store, but still doesn't offer you a loaner computer imaged from yours. Clearly, people are using these computers for work.

scns 5y ago

Charging the battery over 80% produces more heat and degradesvits lifetime, did you ran it plugged in all the time? My phones manufacturer stops at 90 but i installed an alarm to pull the plug earlier.

egypturnash 5y ago
I ran it exactly the same way I ran the several Mac laptops that preceded it: unplugged in cafes, unplugged in parks, and closed while plugged into the external monitor on my desk. It’s rare for it to spend more than a couple days plugged in, even during the pandemic. The exact same usage pattern that produced a slow, multi-year decline in battery capacity in every other machine resulted in the 2016 Pro suddenly starting to shut down completely while it thought 20-60% of the battery capacity remained. SMC/PRAM resets did nothing, “recalibration” did nothing. 2016 Pros eat batteries, and while Apple acknowledged this enough to pay for one battery replacement, they’ve still hit me for an annoyingly large amount of repair cost, plus downtime, plus the annoyance of work lost due to unexpected shutdowns before I say “oh god it’s doing this again” and start getting insanely aggressive about saving.
- scns 5y ago
  My comment my have been read like trying to blaming it on you, that was the opposite of my intention. I think all computers with Li-Ion batteries should have user accessible charging limits, like Tuxedo and Thinkpads have. For now we have to help ourselves with software, i use BatteryBot Pro from f-droid on my Android devices. (edit) formatting