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Tell that to Mila Kunis (Baywatch at age 11) the Olsen twins (Full House as literal babies) Kaley Cuoco (first film appearance at 11yo) and thousands of other s

Tell that to Mila Kunis (Baywatch at age 11) the Olsen twins (Full House as literal babies) Kaley Cuoco (first film appearance at 11yo) and thousands of other sucessful people who got thier big breaks as children. Children are part of the entertainment industry and always have been. An industry without them would look very strange. Harry Potter, but Harry is 18yo on his first day at Hogwarts. Every family sitcom disappears. And what about work entirely created by kids? I guess highschool drama clubs are out too. This gets very strange very quickly.

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dylan604 5y ago
were any of the people you mentioned or other child actors forced to perform in the nude?
- sandworm101 5y ago
  The olsen twins? Id have to check. Maybe. I saw a nude kid on a documentary last night about surfers called The 100 Foot Wave. Look for the infamous clip of Cuoco from Growing Up Brady, or the coconut bikini clip of Kunis from That70sShow. I think those were very exploitative, certainly far more so than the Nevermind cover.
- wesleywt 5y ago
  We had no idea who this non descript nude baby was until he recreated his own photo. America is sexualizing children and creating a moral panic on it. Not all nudity is sexual. Please grow up America.
hinkley 5y ago
To be fair, The Magicians is magic college instead of magic grade school, but it's more common in literary magic systems for the child to discover magic after puberty, in which case magic high school might make more sense. And are you really going to claim that the Olsens are normal? When did Mickey Rooney start talking about how kids are treated in Hollywood? I'm surprised that at this point we have the ASPCA but no equivalent organization chaperoning kids on movie sets. Not only should this exist, but I think it should have an oversight board of former child actors. Foster, Barrymore and Feldman for instance would have a lot of hard questions to ask.
- sandworm101 5y ago
  Given that one if them is now an Avenger, I wouldn't tell her that her career path was any sort of mistake. She can decide that for herself.
  - hinkley 5y ago
    She is not an Olsen twin. Barrymore has no qualms talking about how rough things got for her. One of her things is offering sometimes unsolicited advice to young actors about avoiding her worst mistakes. Foster simply doesn't talk much to anybody, and only part of that was because she was in the closet for decades (came out in '13, but apparently was an open secret as far back as '93 when an LGBT friend outed her to me). She fucked off to France to get some peace and quiet. Both of these have had careers at least as good as Olsen's. Feldman, as far as I'm aware, still hasn't named the person who was ultimately responsible for Haim's suicide, even after #MeToo and Weinstein's defrocking. All three have strong opinions about what constitutes sketchy. I'm not clear if the Olsen Twins have registered the ways that they could have had a better life and that makes me sad. I don't recall if it was Barrymore or someone else who said that the problem with being a famous child is that you are too young to really understand friendship yet, and once people want things from you it's very hard to learn about it, because so many people are investing energy in pretending to be your friend. Imagine going through life not knowing what real friends look like.
    - sandworm101 5y ago
      Then go tell the next britney spears or taylor swift that she isn't allowed to perform until she is 18. Waitress? Sure. Dig ditches on a farm? Ok. Sing a song and get paid for it? Nope. That is adult stuff. Can she dance at the olympics or is that also performing?
  - djrogers 5y ago
    Neither of the Olsen twins is Wanda - Elizabeth Olsen is their younger sister.
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dylan604 5y ago

were any of the people you mentioned or other child actors forced to perform in the nude?

sandworm101 5y ago
The olsen twins? Id have to check. Maybe. I saw a nude kid on a documentary last night about surfers called The 100 Foot Wave. Look for the infamous clip of Cuoco from Growing Up Brady, or the coconut bikini clip of Kunis from That70sShow. I think those were very exploitative, certainly far more so than the Nevermind cover.
wesleywt 5y ago
We had no idea who this non descript nude baby was until he recreated his own photo. America is sexualizing children and creating a moral panic on it. Not all nudity is sexual. Please grow up America.

hinkley 5y ago

To be fair, The Magicians is magic college instead of magic grade school, but it's more common in literary magic systems for the child to discover magic after puberty, in which case magic high school might make more sense. And are you really going to claim that the Olsens are normal? When did Mickey Rooney start talking about how kids are treated in Hollywood? I'm surprised that at this point we have the ASPCA but no equivalent organization chaperoning kids on movie sets. Not only should this exist, but I think it should have an oversight board of former child actors. Foster, Barrymore and Feldman for instance would have a lot of hard questions to ask.

sandworm101 5y ago
Given that one if them is now an Avenger, I wouldn't tell her that her career path was any sort of mistake. She can decide that for herself.
- hinkley 5y ago
  She is not an Olsen twin. Barrymore has no qualms talking about how rough things got for her. One of her things is offering sometimes unsolicited advice to young actors about avoiding her worst mistakes. Foster simply doesn't talk much to anybody, and only part of that was because she was in the closet for decades (came out in '13, but apparently was an open secret as far back as '93 when an LGBT friend outed her to me). She fucked off to France to get some peace and quiet. Both of these have had careers at least as good as Olsen's. Feldman, as far as I'm aware, still hasn't named the person who was ultimately responsible for Haim's suicide, even after #MeToo and Weinstein's defrocking. All three have strong opinions about what constitutes sketchy. I'm not clear if the Olsen Twins have registered the ways that they could have had a better life and that makes me sad. I don't recall if it was Barrymore or someone else who said that the problem with being a famous child is that you are too young to really understand friendship yet, and once people want things from you it's very hard to learn about it, because so many people are investing energy in pretending to be your friend. Imagine going through life not knowing what real friends look like.
  - sandworm101 5y ago
    Then go tell the next britney spears or taylor swift that she isn't allowed to perform until she is 18. Waitress? Sure. Dig ditches on a farm? Ok. Sing a song and get paid for it? Nope. That is adult stuff. Can she dance at the olympics or is that also performing?
- djrogers 5y ago
  Neither of the Olsen twins is Wanda - Elizabeth Olsen is their younger sister.
  - 5y ago