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Given the average user don't know what a url is and a pedophile can use the darknet, I'd say criminals are not all dumb.

nicce 5y ago
It is not so easily comparable. It’s all about your intrests and expectations. Darknet might sound bit complex, but as darknet user, you literally just install different browser.
- pope_meat 5y ago
  Something like 40 percent of people use the default browser installed by the os. We're just in an echo chamber of people who know what JavaScript is, and that distorts our perception of the world.
  - nicce 5y ago
    Can you give source for that number? Regardless, browser is like any other app. If that amount of people don’t know how to install apps on their computers, then we have a either real dump people (or just lack of motivation) or great UX design failure in general.
    - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
      Users are on average incompetent, not dumb. It's a dauntins realisation that sinks in once you have to do support for a web site or app catering to the general population instead of a niche. They don't read, don't know the diff between an app and a web site, don't know right click or drag and drop, think google or chrome is the internet and overall their startegy to solve any problem is as follow: - look for something obvious that seems like the answer but is not scary - click - wait for it - repeat 3 times until ok or give up and call someone or get angry or both Working on a streaming video site really opened my eyes on this one. Most tickets we received were insults, some were incomprehensible garbage, a few were actionable request from someone not understanding anything about their computer. This is nothing like your github ticket. Your parent number are being generous IMO.
xtiansimon 5y ago
Apple seems to have completely botched this PR stunt/feature. Reading your comment, I realize how these… ‘criminals’ could use phone number networks to share illegal sexual content peer to peer. In other words, Apple doesn’t need to analyze your images to find these criminals. They only need to analyze the frequency or quantity of flagged images. In other words not one image correctly/falsely tagged, but individuals and networks of individuals who are *collecting* and *storing* mass quantities of these images. And, they’re using Apple privacy and security to hide from law enforcement. Racketeering?

nicce 5y ago

It is not so easily comparable. It’s all about your intrests and expectations. Darknet might sound bit complex, but as darknet user, you literally just install different browser.

pope_meat 5y ago
Something like 40 percent of people use the default browser installed by the os. We're just in an echo chamber of people who know what JavaScript is, and that distorts our perception of the world.
- nicce 5y ago
  Can you give source for that number? Regardless, browser is like any other app. If that amount of people don’t know how to install apps on their computers, then we have a either real dump people (or just lack of motivation) or great UX design failure in general.
  - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
    Users are on average incompetent, not dumb. It's a dauntins realisation that sinks in once you have to do support for a web site or app catering to the general population instead of a niche. They don't read, don't know the diff between an app and a web site, don't know right click or drag and drop, think google or chrome is the internet and overall their startegy to solve any problem is as follow: - look for something obvious that seems like the answer but is not scary - click - wait for it - repeat 3 times until ok or give up and call someone or get angry or both Working on a streaming video site really opened my eyes on this one. Most tickets we received were insults, some were incomprehensible garbage, a few were actionable request from someone not understanding anything about their computer. This is nothing like your github ticket. Your parent number are being generous IMO.

xtiansimon 5y ago

Apple seems to have completely botched this PR stunt/feature. Reading your comment, I realize how these… ‘criminals’ could use phone number networks to share illegal sexual content peer to peer. In other words, Apple doesn’t need to analyze your images to find these criminals. They only need to analyze the frequency or quantity of flagged images. In other words not one image correctly/falsely tagged, but individuals and networks of individuals who are *collecting* and *storing* mass quantities of these images. And, they’re using Apple privacy and security to hide from law enforcement. Racketeering?