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"While it’s good for Apple to scan on its systems (iCloud) like Facebook, Google and other companies do on their servers, it’s inappropriate to do it on individ

by fleddr 5y ago

"While it’s good for Apple to scan on its systems (iCloud) like Facebook, Google and other companies do on their servers, it’s inappropriate to do it on individual devices" I would even challenge the justification to do this on servers, unless the data is public. If it's behind a personal login, you might as well consider it personal property/data. I find the distinction of where data is stored not very meaningful. Allowing things to be searched for criminal content just because it's not in your immediate physical sphere makes no sense. It doesn't work like that in the physical world either. When I send a letter, and it leaves my house, no authority has the right to check its contents without a legitimate reason. Likewise, if I put stuff in a storage box in some warehouse, no authority can search it without a warrant. Note that I'm talking about personal storage (iCloud, Gmail), not public social networks like Facebook.

hackinthebochs 5y ago
Absolutely. If I own my data, someone processing this data on my behalf has no right or obligation to scan it for illegal content. The fact that this data sometimes sits on hard drives owned by another party just isn't a relevant factor. Presumably I still own my car when it sits in the garage at the shop. They have no right or obligation to rummage around looking for evidence of a crime. I don't see abstract data as any different. Our major privacy blunder was accepting scanning of private data in any context. The fight should be for the absolute privacy of personal data. Where the scanning happens is mostly irrelevant.
- fleddr 5y ago
  Fully agree. Only this week did I learn that companies were already doing this on servers since at least 2018-2019. Can't say I ever read anything about it before. I find it quite shocking that a foundational element of criminal justice, innocent until proven guilty and needing a reason to search individual property, is tossed aside like it's nothing.

by fleddr 5y ago

hackinthebochs 5y ago

Absolutely. If I own my data, someone processing this data on my behalf has no right or obligation to scan it for illegal content. The fact that this data sometimes sits on hard drives owned by another party just isn't a relevant factor. Presumably I still own my car when it sits in the garage at the shop. They have no right or obligation to rummage around looking for evidence of a crime. I don't see abstract data as any different. Our major privacy blunder was accepting scanning of private data in any context. The fight should be for the absolute privacy of personal data. Where the scanning happens is mostly irrelevant.

fleddr 5y ago
Fully agree. Only this week did I learn that companies were already doing this on servers since at least 2018-2019. Can't say I ever read anything about it before. I find it quite shocking that a foundational element of criminal justice, innocent until proven guilty and needing a reason to search individual property, is tossed aside like it's nothing.