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Wow....how is this a disgusting attitude? I never said "shit happens". More explaining from personal experience that this videos didn't show anything out of the

Wow....how is this a disgusting attitude? I never said "shit happens". More explaining from personal experience that this videos didn't show anything out of the norm with dealing with actual Taliban.

robin_reala 5y ago
It’s worse that it’s not “out of the norm” than if it was an isolated incident.
- bearclaw89 5y ago
  ....was only saying that this video doesn't prove it was innocent lives....
  - robin_reala 5y ago
    Typically the onus would be to prove someone guilty rather than the other way around.
  - kzrdude 5y ago
    Since the the actual drone operator is claiming that they were innocent, then it seems strange to insist that they could have been combatants based on no evidence? Here is another reversal comic/satire about killing civilians: https://thenib.com/yemen-bombs-yet-another-wedding-in-america/ https://thenib.com/yemen-bombs-yet-another-wedding-in-americ...
    - higherup 5y ago
      What do you do when assasins call you an assasin (Apocalypse now...)? What do you call it when you kill, in the name of saving lives?
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago
    It is hard to respond to this. It is true in absolute terms. That said, do we really want a world like this? Because logical conclusions of it are not fun. It is not like I can wear 'I am innocent' flag. And clearly, not that anyone would respect it.
  - pvaldes 5y ago
    Only a fair trial can declare anybody guilty. Without a right to say anything they are innocent by default. The video don't record any obvious crime by part of the killed people. They are innocent until proven otherwise. A world when everybody must prove that is innocent, so is not executed at first sight by a machine is terrifying. And as long as people starts seeing preemptive murder as a good cheaper alternative to justice, the fall is unstoppable. We really want to live in that world?

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Wow....how is this a disgusting attitude? I never said "shit happens". More explaining from personal experience that this videos didn't show anything out of the

by bearclaw89 5y ago

Wow....how is this a disgusting attitude? I never said "shit happens". More explaining from personal experience that this videos didn't show anything out of the norm with dealing with actual Taliban.

robin_reala 5y ago
It’s worse that it’s not “out of the norm” than if it was an isolated incident.
- bearclaw89 5y ago
  ....was only saying that this video doesn't prove it was innocent lives....
  - robin_reala 5y ago
    Typically the onus would be to prove someone guilty rather than the other way around.
  - kzrdude 5y ago
    Since the the actual drone operator is claiming that they were innocent, then it seems strange to insist that they could have been combatants based on no evidence? Here is another reversal comic/satire about killing civilians: https://thenib.com/yemen-bombs-yet-another-wedding-in-america/ https://thenib.com/yemen-bombs-yet-another-wedding-in-americ...
    - higherup 5y ago
      What do you do when assasins call you an assasin (Apocalypse now...)? What do you call it when you kill, in the name of saving lives?
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago
    It is hard to respond to this. It is true in absolute terms. That said, do we really want a world like this? Because logical conclusions of it are not fun. It is not like I can wear 'I am innocent' flag. And clearly, not that anyone would respect it.
  - pvaldes 5y ago
    Only a fair trial can declare anybody guilty. Without a right to say anything they are innocent by default. The video don't record any obvious crime by part of the killed people. They are innocent until proven otherwise. A world when everybody must prove that is innocent, so is not executed at first sight by a machine is terrifying. And as long as people starts seeing preemptive murder as a good cheaper alternative to justice, the fall is unstoppable. We really want to live in that world?