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> MingYang says the MySE 16.0-242 is just the start of its "new 15MW+ offshore product platform," and that it's capable of operating installed to the sea floor

> MingYang says the MySE 16.0-242 is just the start of its "new 15MW+ offshore product platform," and that it's capable of operating installed to the sea floor or on a floating base. Am I reading that right? A tower 242 meters tall (read: a 70-floor skyscraper), with moving 118 meter blades, and they're proposing anchoring it to a floating base!?

elevaet 5y ago
Why not? It must be a very wide floating base
- lolc 5y ago
  As some other commenter pointed out, you can just add a counterweight.
  - elevaet 5y ago
    Underwater pointing down?
    - lolc 5y ago
      Exactly.
marvin 5y ago
Granted, it's a factor 2.5 difference in height, 1.6 in rotor radius and 6 in rated power, but Equinor operates a floating wind farm with 100 meter hub height outside of Scotland. (I'm assuming that the article reported hub height and not the highest point of the rotor). https://www.equinor.com/en/what-we-do/floating-wind/how-hywind-works.html https://www.equinor.com/en/what-we-do/floating-wind/how-hywi...
- pjc50 5y ago
  Interesting: not a wide base, but instead a very deep one. Build the tower twice as tall, fill the bottom with rocks: now you have a structure whose center of gravity is very low, and the hollow column gives it buoyancy. Hundred meter turbine just bobbing in the water like a cork.
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quokka 5y ago
Apparently floating these monsters is now a solved problem. But doing maintenance on a 200 m tower bobbing in the waves is still a challenge. I'm a subscriber so I don't know how soft the paywall is: https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2021/07/21/floating-wind-turbines-could-rise-to-great-heights https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2021/07/21/...
wingineer 5y ago
Yes, floating wind is a growing research area that may be successfully commercialized within the next 10 years. There are a variety of different substructure concepts, some of which have been tried at full-scale, though not quite this large. A recent example is the Tetraspar project [1]. The primary motivation for floating wind is the ability to access areas of the ocean with high levels of wind resources that have water depths which make it uneconomical to construct and install a monopile foundation. [1] https://www.stiesdal.com/offshore-technologies/the-tetraspar-full-scale-demonstration-project/ https://www.stiesdal.com/offshore-technologies/the-tetraspar...

elevaet 5y ago

Why not? It must be a very wide floating base

lolc 5y ago
As some other commenter pointed out, you can just add a counterweight.
- elevaet 5y ago
  Underwater pointing down?
  - lolc 5y ago
    Exactly.

marvin 5y ago

Granted, it's a factor 2.5 difference in height, 1.6 in rotor radius and 6 in rated power, but Equinor operates a floating wind farm with 100 meter hub height outside of Scotland. (I'm assuming that the article reported hub height and not the highest point of the rotor). https://www.equinor.com/en/what-we-do/floating-wind/how-hywind-works.html https://www.equinor.com/en/what-we-do/floating-wind/how-hywi...

pjc50 5y ago
Interesting: not a wide base, but instead a very deep one. Build the tower twice as tall, fill the bottom with rocks: now you have a structure whose center of gravity is very low, and the hollow column gives it buoyancy. Hundred meter turbine just bobbing in the water like a cork.
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quokka 5y ago

Apparently floating these monsters is now a solved problem. But doing maintenance on a 200 m tower bobbing in the waves is still a challenge. I'm a subscriber so I don't know how soft the paywall is: https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2021/07/21/floating-wind-turbines-could-rise-to-great-heights https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2021/07/21/...

wingineer 5y ago

Yes, floating wind is a growing research area that may be successfully commercialized within the next 10 years. There are a variety of different substructure concepts, some of which have been tried at full-scale, though not quite this large. A recent example is the Tetraspar project [1]. The primary motivation for floating wind is the ability to access areas of the ocean with high levels of wind resources that have water depths which make it uneconomical to construct and install a monopile foundation. [1] https://www.stiesdal.com/offshore-technologies/the-tetraspar-full-scale-demonstration-project/ https://www.stiesdal.com/offshore-technologies/the-tetraspar...