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Switched to GrapheneOS with the Pixel 5. Email/Calendar integration works fine (K-9 Mail). Signal as instant messenger. Organic Maps as Map application. Repla

Switched to GrapheneOS with the Pixel 5. Email/Calendar integration works fine (K-9 Mail). Signal as instant messenger. Organic Maps as Map application. Replaced Apple Watch with GadgetBridge and a Mi 6 band (cheaper and I have easy access to all data, you need to sync once with their app after you get the key you can delete it ... did the setup on the iphone and copied out the key with a commandline python script from github). Syncthing is amazing (local sync of audio books, camera images). AntennaPod is equally amazing as a podcast client (I prefer it to overcast switching from the iPhone). Other apps I'm using regularly: AnkiDroid So far so good, not having the Google Services seemed ok, except: 1. still in search for good camera application, recommendations welcome. 2. a replacement of Reeder as an RSS reader (so far have not found a solution that works for me). Yet, just started programming for it a bit and have to say I love flutter. It's pretty polished (and great for my needs).

chairhairair 5y ago
Sorry, what does Flutter have to do with the rest of your comment?
- wilsonfiifi 5y ago
  I'm guessing writing their own apps to replace missing functionality
- kgarten 5y ago
  Sorry, this was a bit out of context. As the other commenter assumed, it is for replacing/extending the functionality of the phone. For example, I wanted to access the heartrate and other mi band data and it's quite easy with gadgetbridge and my own flutter app. I tried similar apps before with SwiftUI and the Apple Watch and it was pretty much a disaster (although I have working knowledge of objective C ...). Dart came easy and flutter seems super powerful to me ( I just re-implemented my first very simple ios game in just a day. that's the objective c version https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blanks/id286883373 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blanks/id286883373 ). Will publish/open-source the other one, when it's polished.
  - chairhairair 5y ago
    Does GrapheneOS need its own Flutter embedder, or can Android's be used? Sorry, I'm not very familiar with GrapheneOS but I'm curious how easy it is to build Flutter apps on different platforms.
    - kgarten 5y ago
      It uses Android's. It works like a regular Android smartphone, you enable Developer Mode + USB debugging. Android Studio recognizes the phone and complies /runs your application.
    - kgarten 5y ago
      GrapheneOS is just Android without google services (so some libraries etc. might not work). For my purposes good enough.
ptidhomme 5y ago
2. a replacement of Reeder as an RSS reader (so far have not found a solution that works for me). Have you tried Feeder ? I'm having no problems with it so far on my GrapheneOS Pixel 4a.
pojntfx 5y ago
I can recommend "Open Camera" for the Camera app, its very customizable and reliable.
- NGRhodes 5y ago
  I have used it in the past and its great, sadly it does not support the multiple cameras of my Motorola.
  - fho 5y ago
    Current OpenCamera versions support multiple cameras if the OS exposes them.
dntbrsnbl 5y ago
I wrote a PWA for reading RSS feeds. It works fully offline and should be installable in Chromium based browsers (I develop in Firefox, but Chromium definitely has better PWA support). https://readr.nz https://readr.nz
coopsmoss 5y ago
My favourite thing about the pixel 5 is the camera. I understand that they do a fair amount of software processing to make it so good. And most other apps don't let me use the wide lens. Is the experience as good on Graphene?
- sphinxcdi 5y ago
  https://grapheneos.org/usage#camera https://grapheneos.org/usage#camera
- NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago
  You can use Google's camera application, which is optimized for the Pixels of course. I think it will probably work with the new sandboxed play services implementation, but there is a simpler way: https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider This is a stub implementation of what gcam needs and it works great. I believe, independent of sandboxed play services, GrapheneOS team plans to implement stub play services like this for all parts, not just those required by gcam. You can install gcam and just give it no permissions (especially network). It will chug along merrily.
  - jmnicolas 5y ago
    Hi, thanks for the tip. I have a Pixel 4 XL, do you know where could I find Google's camera app (obviously without connecting to the play store)?
    - xanaxagoras 5y ago
      APK mirror. Risk is mitigated with no network connection.
    - NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago
      I think you can get it via Aurora Store, which you can get via F-Droid
spdl 5y ago
I started using GrapheneOS today and was able to install the official Google Camera app through Aurora store (the only good camera app for pixels imho). As akc3n suggested in their comment, the installable sandboxed google play services fixes some of the compatibility issues that Graphene has had up till now. Obviously it's a tradeoff I'm making between privacy and a great camera, but I'm not logged into my google account anywhere and I denied location permissions to the camera.
- kgarten 5y ago
  thanks a lot! ... it's a bit of a compromise. Yet, it works perfectly.
- NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago
  There is a simpler way: https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider This is a stub implementation of what gcam needs and it works great. I believe, independent of sandboxed play services, GrapheneOS team plans to implement stub play services like this for all parts, not just those required by gcam.
NGRhodes 5y ago
Though not FOSS, Magic Earth is a good OSM based car navigation app that respects privacy. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.generalmagic.magicearth https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.generalmag...
- jmnicolas 5y ago
  Why not Osmand? It's FOSS, a bit complex though.
loughnane 5y ago
If you selfhost miniflux you can access via the browser, which is a pretty great experience
NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago
You can use Google's camera application, which is optimized for the Pixels of course. I think it will probably work with the new sandboxed play services implementation, but there is a simpler way: https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider This is a stub implementation of what gcam needs and it works great. I believe, independent of sandboxed play services, GrapheneOS team plans to implement stub play services like this for all parts, not just those required by gcam.
- xanaxagoras 5y ago
  I downloaded the latest Google Camera from APK mirror and turned off all network access in Datura Firewall (comes with CalyxOS). This is a pretty common recommendation on /r/CalyxOS. Another recommendation I've seen and wish I'd done is to extract Google Camera's APK from your stock Android via adb before you flash Calyx, thus avoiding APK mirror. Only trouble is after you take a picture and tap the thumbnail to view it immediately, it wants to open it in Google Photos and that is apparently not configurable. Simple enough solution - downloaded Google Photos from Aurora and blocked all network access just like Google Camera. Most stuff in Google Photos doesn't work but it's fine for a local gallery viewer. From what I gather no other camera app will even come close as the Pixel series works closely with the Google Camera app to bring software optimizations to the photos that specific camera module takes.
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  For RSS I use Feeder from f-droid, I mainly use it to subscribe to video content though, check it out.
yissp 5y ago
I've found Flym https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.frju.flym/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.frju.flym/ to be a decent RSS reader.
xanaxagoras 5y ago
I don't see Mi 6 Band at the device list on https://www.gadgetbridge.org/ https://www.gadgetbridge.org/. Was it difficult to setup?
- kgarten 5y ago
  Not really, as for other mi bands you need to get the pairing key. I followed the info here: https://codeberg.org/Freeyourgadget/Gadgetbridge/wiki/Huami-Server-Pairing https://codeberg.org/Freeyourgadget/Gadgetbridge/wiki/Huami-... live heartrate, activity + sleep data sync works out of the box. Notifications as well. Weather Info and media player does not. I'm mostly interested in the data export and share with other apps. Gadgetbridge is amazing :)
least 5y ago
> AntennaPod is equally amazing as a podcast client (I prefer it to overcast switching from the iPhone). I tried installing this on an amazon fire tablet i have lying around. It seems nice but the variable speed and better processing of sped up audio on overcast is what makes me prefer it over other podcast players and the sped up audio on this player is awful.

chairhairair 5y ago

Sorry, what does Flutter have to do with the rest of your comment?

wilsonfiifi 5y ago
I'm guessing writing their own apps to replace missing functionality
kgarten 5y ago
Sorry, this was a bit out of context. As the other commenter assumed, it is for replacing/extending the functionality of the phone. For example, I wanted to access the heartrate and other mi band data and it's quite easy with gadgetbridge and my own flutter app. I tried similar apps before with SwiftUI and the Apple Watch and it was pretty much a disaster (although I have working knowledge of objective C ...). Dart came easy and flutter seems super powerful to me ( I just re-implemented my first very simple ios game in just a day. that's the objective c version https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blanks/id286883373 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blanks/id286883373 ). Will publish/open-source the other one, when it's polished.
- chairhairair 5y ago
  Does GrapheneOS need its own Flutter embedder, or can Android's be used? Sorry, I'm not very familiar with GrapheneOS but I'm curious how easy it is to build Flutter apps on different platforms.
  - kgarten 5y ago
    It uses Android's. It works like a regular Android smartphone, you enable Developer Mode + USB debugging. Android Studio recognizes the phone and complies /runs your application.
  - kgarten 5y ago
    GrapheneOS is just Android without google services (so some libraries etc. might not work). For my purposes good enough.

ptidhomme 5y ago

2. a replacement of Reeder as an RSS reader (so far have not found a solution that works for me). Have you tried Feeder ? I'm having no problems with it so far on my GrapheneOS Pixel 4a.

pojntfx 5y ago

I can recommend "Open Camera" for the Camera app, its very customizable and reliable.

NGRhodes 5y ago
I have used it in the past and its great, sadly it does not support the multiple cameras of my Motorola.
- fho 5y ago
  Current OpenCamera versions support multiple cameras if the OS exposes them.

dntbrsnbl 5y ago

I wrote a PWA for reading RSS feeds. It works fully offline and should be installable in Chromium based browsers (I develop in Firefox, but Chromium definitely has better PWA support). https://readr.nz https://readr.nz

coopsmoss 5y ago

My favourite thing about the pixel 5 is the camera. I understand that they do a fair amount of software processing to make it so good. And most other apps don't let me use the wide lens. Is the experience as good on Graphene?

sphinxcdi 5y ago
https://grapheneos.org/usage#camera https://grapheneos.org/usage#camera
NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago
You can use Google's camera application, which is optimized for the Pixels of course. I think it will probably work with the new sandboxed play services implementation, but there is a simpler way: https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider This is a stub implementation of what gcam needs and it works great. I believe, independent of sandboxed play services, GrapheneOS team plans to implement stub play services like this for all parts, not just those required by gcam. You can install gcam and just give it no permissions (especially network). It will chug along merrily.
- jmnicolas 5y ago
  Hi, thanks for the tip. I have a Pixel 4 XL, do you know where could I find Google's camera app (obviously without connecting to the play store)?
  - xanaxagoras 5y ago
    APK mirror. Risk is mitigated with no network connection.
  - NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago
    I think you can get it via Aurora Store, which you can get via F-Droid

spdl 5y ago

I started using GrapheneOS today and was able to install the official Google Camera app through Aurora store (the only good camera app for pixels imho). As akc3n suggested in their comment, the installable sandboxed google play services fixes some of the compatibility issues that Graphene has had up till now. Obviously it's a tradeoff I'm making between privacy and a great camera, but I'm not logged into my google account anywhere and I denied location permissions to the camera.

kgarten 5y ago
thanks a lot! ... it's a bit of a compromise. Yet, it works perfectly.
NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago
There is a simpler way: https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider This is a stub implementation of what gcam needs and it works great. I believe, independent of sandboxed play services, GrapheneOS team plans to implement stub play services like this for all parts, not just those required by gcam.

NGRhodes 5y ago

Though not FOSS, Magic Earth is a good OSM based car navigation app that respects privacy. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.generalmagic.magicearth https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.generalmag...

jmnicolas 5y ago
Why not Osmand? It's FOSS, a bit complex though.

loughnane 5y ago

If you selfhost miniflux you can access via the browser, which is a pretty great experience

NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago

You can use Google's camera application, which is optimized for the Pixels of course. I think it will probably work with the new sandboxed play services implementation, but there is a simpler way: https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider This is a stub implementation of what gcam needs and it works great. I believe, independent of sandboxed play services, GrapheneOS team plans to implement stub play services like this for all parts, not just those required by gcam.

xanaxagoras 5y ago
I downloaded the latest Google Camera from APK mirror and turned off all network access in Datura Firewall (comes with CalyxOS). This is a pretty common recommendation on /r/CalyxOS. Another recommendation I've seen and wish I'd done is to extract Google Camera's APK from your stock Android via adb before you flash Calyx, thus avoiding APK mirror. Only trouble is after you take a picture and tap the thumbnail to view it immediately, it wants to open it in Google Photos and that is apparently not configurable. Simple enough solution - downloaded Google Photos from Aurora and blocked all network access just like Google Camera. Most stuff in Google Photos doesn't work but it's fine for a local gallery viewer. From what I gather no other camera app will even come close as the Pixel series works closely with the Google Camera app to bring software optimizations to the photos that specific camera module takes.
betwixthewires 5y ago
For RSS I use Feeder from f-droid, I mainly use it to subscribe to video content though, check it out.

yissp 5y ago

I've found Flym https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.frju.flym/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.frju.flym/ to be a decent RSS reader.

xanaxagoras 5y ago

I don't see Mi 6 Band at the device list on https://www.gadgetbridge.org/ https://www.gadgetbridge.org/. Was it difficult to setup?

kgarten 5y ago
Not really, as for other mi bands you need to get the pairing key. I followed the info here: https://codeberg.org/Freeyourgadget/Gadgetbridge/wiki/Huami-Server-Pairing https://codeberg.org/Freeyourgadget/Gadgetbridge/wiki/Huami-... live heartrate, activity + sleep data sync works out of the box. Notifications as well. Weather Info and media player does not. I'm mostly interested in the data export and share with other apps. Gadgetbridge is amazing :)

least 5y ago

> AntennaPod is equally amazing as a podcast client (I prefer it to overcast switching from the iPhone). I tried installing this on an amazon fire tablet i have lying around. It seems nice but the variable speed and better processing of sped up audio on overcast is what makes me prefer it over other podcast players and the sped up audio on this player is awful.