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mpol 5y ago
Hi, thank you for this article :) I would have enjoyed a more thorough write-up of Pinephone and a few popular Linux-distro's and how far they get in regards to a daily driver for you. What I do miss is that both phones are still mostly labeled as developer phones. I read another comment where you made a point about urgency, but I still think you might be expecting too much here :) Also, I would be interested in a good review of Sailfish and Ubuntu Ports. Sailfish on a recent Sony Xperia, like the 10II, and Ubuntu on a device that is listed as good support for a daily driver. I hear different things of Ubuntu ports, but I think testing it on a Pinephone might do it short. I wonder what device people use for UB when using it as a daily driver. That might give a more usable device than the Pinephone. Though it will have its limits as well.
ellis0n 5y ago
Amazing reading! I working on the Animation CPU mobile OS toolkit for creating custom secure OSes and apps from scratch. t has everything geek and non-geek development needs, a minimalistic core and api, builtin ide with realtime reverse debugger, code and nocode, powerful graphics, runs on linux, ios, webasm or pure hardware, etc. But here is an issue, it's not public and not open-source. Сan you advise me where to start the FOSS way, build community etc? Here a little bit details: https://animationcpu.herokuapp.com/ https://animationcpu.herokuapp.com/
- emacsen 5y ago
  My only suggestion right now mitght be to read my friend Karl's book. "Producing Open Source Software", which has a bunch on community. Or Jono Bacon's book "The Art of Community" is also good. One thing you may find, sadly, is that with SOO many projects out there, yours might not get a lot of fellow developers. But this sounds like a wonderful idea for a project!
chrismorgan 5y ago
Why do you spell Purism’s phone “LibreM”, when they spell it “Librem”? (It’s common for people to heedlessly miscapitalise, spelling ProductName as Productname or vice versa, which I can’t really get my head around as it’s not the way my mind ticks, but you’re in the much more interesting category of people consistently applying a more esoteric miscapitalisation, and I’m curious what leads to it. I’m trying to understand all this partly from simple curiosity and partly to help me with naming products.)
- emacsen 5y ago
  I thought it was the LibreM. shrug
  - chrismorgan 5y ago
    Interesting. I’m curious if you can guess what led you think that, since I don’t think I’ve ever seen that spelling anywhere.
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betwixthewires 5y ago
I don't know if you're keeping track of this thread, but here's a top level comment I left https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28306150 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28306150 I'm pretty heavy into this stuff, been using exclusively unlocked and rooted AOSP for over a decade, 100% FOSS degoogled (minus hardware drivers of course) for 6 or so, and contributed anonymously to the community pretty significantly over the years. At this point I think the days of FOSS Android are numbered, I still use it for now, but I don't see our community having the leeway we currently are barely holding onto in 10 years. If Libre mobile computing has a future it is in the currently in development Linux mobile ecosystem.

mpol 5y ago

Hi, thank you for this article :) I would have enjoyed a more thorough write-up of Pinephone and a few popular Linux-distro's and how far they get in regards to a daily driver for you. What I do miss is that both phones are still mostly labeled as developer phones. I read another comment where you made a point about urgency, but I still think you might be expecting too much here :) Also, I would be interested in a good review of Sailfish and Ubuntu Ports. Sailfish on a recent Sony Xperia, like the 10II, and Ubuntu on a device that is listed as good support for a daily driver. I hear different things of Ubuntu ports, but I think testing it on a Pinephone might do it short. I wonder what device people use for UB when using it as a daily driver. That might give a more usable device than the Pinephone. Though it will have its limits as well.

ellis0n 5y ago

Amazing reading! I working on the Animation CPU mobile OS toolkit for creating custom secure OSes and apps from scratch. t has everything geek and non-geek development needs, a minimalistic core and api, builtin ide with realtime reverse debugger, code and nocode, powerful graphics, runs on linux, ios, webasm or pure hardware, etc. But here is an issue, it's not public and not open-source. Сan you advise me where to start the FOSS way, build community etc? Here a little bit details: https://animationcpu.herokuapp.com/ https://animationcpu.herokuapp.com/

emacsen 5y ago
My only suggestion right now mitght be to read my friend Karl's book. "Producing Open Source Software", which has a bunch on community. Or Jono Bacon's book "The Art of Community" is also good. One thing you may find, sadly, is that with SOO many projects out there, yours might not get a lot of fellow developers. But this sounds like a wonderful idea for a project!

chrismorgan 5y ago

Why do you spell Purism’s phone “LibreM”, when they spell it “Librem”? (It’s common for people to heedlessly miscapitalise, spelling ProductName as Productname or vice versa, which I can’t really get my head around as it’s not the way my mind ticks, but you’re in the much more interesting category of people consistently applying a more esoteric miscapitalisation, and I’m curious what leads to it. I’m trying to understand all this partly from simple curiosity and partly to help me with naming products.)

emacsen 5y ago
I thought it was the LibreM. shrug
- chrismorgan 5y ago
  Interesting. I’m curious if you can guess what led you think that, since I don’t think I’ve ever seen that spelling anywhere.
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betwixthewires 5y ago

I don't know if you're keeping track of this thread, but here's a top level comment I left https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28306150 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28306150 I'm pretty heavy into this stuff, been using exclusively unlocked and rooted AOSP for over a decade, 100% FOSS degoogled (minus hardware drivers of course) for 6 or so, and contributed anonymously to the community pretty significantly over the years. At this point I think the days of FOSS Android are numbered, I still use it for now, but I don't see our community having the leeway we currently are barely holding onto in 10 years. If Libre mobile computing has a future it is in the currently in development Linux mobile ecosystem.