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‘What do you think you’re doing?’: Sydneysiders stung for eating outside

20 points by graderjs 5y ago

swiley 5y ago
I’m really tired of this. It’s a bad cold and it’s here to stay, stop harassing people.
TapWaterBandit 5y ago
How are the government able to do this in Australia? Do Australians not possess a bill of rights with codified "inviolable rights" similar to the US Constitution? Or is it basically up to the government to determine how far they can with little ability of the courts to stop it? Quite shocked watching what is happening in Australia and NZ with their society-wide lockdowns. Have been to both places and would never have guessed the population would so willingly go along with what seems to be quite overt and widespread human rights abuses.
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- erentz 5y ago
  I don’t believe you’ve been to NZ. There are no abuses here, I haven’t seen a single cop since level 4 started and I live in a busy central city area. What’s happened is really quite simple. New Zealanders have come together, and all recognize enough about how a virus works to know how to best beat it as a team, and so can manage a little sacrifice for all the gains it brings. It’s really that simple. I’m sure it’s being twisted in your media channels but life is fine, I’m sitting in the sun, my neighbor is sitting outside working, today I sat in the park and ate a sandwich. In the next week our lockdown will be over and we’ll have no cases. Then life goes on as normal, just as it has for the past year, without deaths and without hospitals being overwhelmed. Completely 100% normal prepandemic life all for the easy price of a momentary blip of inconvenience.
  - graderjs 5y ago
    All I can say is "Tahnk Gawd for the Trans Tasman arrangement". Good to hear Beautiful NZ is faring seemingly better... never been there and I wonder what culturally/politically the difference with AU is...
  - criticaltinker 5y ago
    Despite the strict lock-downs, the rate of confirmed new cases has been skyrocketing for the past week in NZ [1] (and many other countries), with no clear end in sight. Only ~20% of the NZ population has been fully vaccinated [2]. > In the next week our lockdown will be over and we’ll have no cases > Completely 100% normal prepandemic life all for the easy price of a momentary blip of inconvenience I honestly can't tell if your comment is satire or propaganda. Assuming you've commented in good faith - why do you believe there will be no cases next week? Don't you think it's likely that the prime minister extends the lock-down orders, again? [1] https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/new-zealand#daily-confirmed-cases-how-do-they-compare-to-other-countries https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/new-zealand#d... [2] https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/new-zealand#what-share-of-the-population-has-been-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19 https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/new-zealand#w...
    - graderjs 5y ago
      I don't want to hurt the feelings of the GP but if this was sincere but inaccurate, I've heard these sort of ideas called, being 'Stockholmed' or having 'Stockholm-syndrome' -- I'm sure that, being under 'lockdown' for a long time, the reality of some proportion of the population developing a Stockholm-syndrome like cultish adoration of their 'overlords' is a psychological probability, unfortunately. I sure hope this person is simply sincere and accurate, or even satirical. It would be mighty sad if this were something else like Stockholmed...:(
      - erentz 5y ago
        You appear to just be a troll but in case you’re not and you want to actually think critically: go away and ask some questions, such as why you think this? Who told you? How long has New Zealand actually been in lock down? What has life been like in NZ during those lockdowns? What do you actually think outside of lockdown it has been like in NZ? Why? Go watch some travel vloggers who wound up in NZ (I’ve seen these come up on my feed: Alex the Vagabond, Danegar and Stacey, Gone with the Wynns), life is normal. It’s absurd what people overseas somehow are making up now.
readonthegoapp 5y ago
I'm leftier than they generally come and this is insanity We need competent people in charge Stopping people from being in the absolute safest place imaginable -- outside -- continues to make a mockery of science and policy and expertise and the state
kaminar 5y ago
It's coming for everyone...the woke abusers think they're insulated lol

20 points by graderjs 5y ago

I’m really tired of this. It’s a bad cold and it’s here to stay, stop harassing people.

How are the government able to do this in Australia? Do Australians not possess a bill of rights with codified "inviolable rights" similar to the US Constitution? Or is it basically up to the government to determine how far they can with little ability of the courts to stop it? Quite shocked watching what is happening in Australia and NZ with their society-wide lockdowns. Have been to both places and would never have guessed the population would so willingly go along with what seems to be quite overt and widespread human rights abuses.

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erentz 5y ago
I don’t believe you’ve been to NZ. There are no abuses here, I haven’t seen a single cop since level 4 started and I live in a busy central city area. What’s happened is really quite simple. New Zealanders have come together, and all recognize enough about how a virus works to know how to best beat it as a team, and so can manage a little sacrifice for all the gains it brings. It’s really that simple. I’m sure it’s being twisted in your media channels but life is fine, I’m sitting in the sun, my neighbor is sitting outside working, today I sat in the park and ate a sandwich. In the next week our lockdown will be over and we’ll have no cases. Then life goes on as normal, just as it has for the past year, without deaths and without hospitals being overwhelmed. Completely 100% normal prepandemic life all for the easy price of a momentary blip of inconvenience.
- graderjs 5y ago
  All I can say is "Tahnk Gawd for the Trans Tasman arrangement". Good to hear Beautiful NZ is faring seemingly better... never been there and I wonder what culturally/politically the difference with AU is...
- criticaltinker 5y ago
  Despite the strict lock-downs, the rate of confirmed new cases has been skyrocketing for the past week in NZ [1] (and many other countries), with no clear end in sight. Only ~20% of the NZ population has been fully vaccinated [2]. > In the next week our lockdown will be over and we’ll have no cases > Completely 100% normal prepandemic life all for the easy price of a momentary blip of inconvenience I honestly can't tell if your comment is satire or propaganda. Assuming you've commented in good faith - why do you believe there will be no cases next week? Don't you think it's likely that the prime minister extends the lock-down orders, again? [1] https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/new-zealand#daily-confirmed-cases-how-do-they-compare-to-other-countries https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/new-zealand#d... [2] https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/new-zealand#what-share-of-the-population-has-been-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19 https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/new-zealand#w...
  - graderjs 5y ago
    I don't want to hurt the feelings of the GP but if this was sincere but inaccurate, I've heard these sort of ideas called, being 'Stockholmed' or having 'Stockholm-syndrome' -- I'm sure that, being under 'lockdown' for a long time, the reality of some proportion of the population developing a Stockholm-syndrome like cultish adoration of their 'overlords' is a psychological probability, unfortunately. I sure hope this person is simply sincere and accurate, or even satirical. It would be mighty sad if this were something else like Stockholmed...:(
    - erentz 5y ago
      You appear to just be a troll but in case you’re not and you want to actually think critically: go away and ask some questions, such as why you think this? Who told you? How long has New Zealand actually been in lock down? What has life been like in NZ during those lockdowns? What do you actually think outside of lockdown it has been like in NZ? Why? Go watch some travel vloggers who wound up in NZ (I’ve seen these come up on my feed: Alex the Vagabond, Danegar and Stacey, Gone with the Wynns), life is normal. It’s absurd what people overseas somehow are making up now.

readonthegoapp 5y ago

I'm leftier than they generally come and this is insanity We need competent people in charge Stopping people from being in the absolute safest place imaginable -- outside -- continues to make a mockery of science and policy and expertise and the state

kaminar 5y ago

It's coming for everyone...the woke abusers think they're insulated lol