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I'd rather hire someone who doesn't struggle with those things.

by Decker87 5y ago

iamdbtoo 5y ago
I'd rather work for someone who understands their employees are human.
- MattGaiser 5y ago
  I am sympathetic to both your views. Employment is increasingly a 1-2 year stint where workers are swapped in frequently and you need to get value out of them before they leave. But it really screws over people who are not known factors or who might need adjustments.
- Decker87 5y ago
  It's not about being human or not. In a very early stage startup you just simply cannot always afford the investment (time and/or money) needed to create a flexible enough environment to support someone who struggles with things like staying focused or working at a fast pace. And that's okay. Startups are a little over-romanticized anyway.
  - bqmjjx0kac 5y ago
    > someone who struggles with things like staying focused or working at a fast pace. You might be surprised by the hyper-focus abilities of folks with ADHD. Keep in mind that your perception is skewed by selection bias — you probably already know many productive coworkers that never told you they have ADHD.
    - xedrac 5y ago
      Perhaps ADHD comes in many forms and severities. My wife has ADHD and her ability to "hyper-focus" is about as good as my ability to breath under water.
      - iamdbtoo 5y ago
        It absolutely does.
      - bqmjjx0kac 5y ago
        My experience of ADHD is that I hyperfocus on work because it's interesting. I'd basically do the same thing without medication, but I wouldn't be able to do my laundry or cook dinner at the end of the day because I'd be exhausted. ADHD symptoms are a multidimensional spectrum [citation needed], and so-called normal people lie somewhere on that spectrum. Making affordances for folks with ADHD is a win for everyone. For example: write meeting notes and assign action items, use a bug tracker, ask people if the process works for them.
  - iamdbtoo 5y ago
    The fact that you think it takes so much work to do that means you don’t understand how it works.

I'd rather hire someone who doesn't struggle with those things.

iamdbtoo 5y ago

I'd rather work for someone who understands their employees are human.

MattGaiser 5y ago
I am sympathetic to both your views. Employment is increasingly a 1-2 year stint where workers are swapped in frequently and you need to get value out of them before they leave. But it really screws over people who are not known factors or who might need adjustments.
Decker87 5y ago
It's not about being human or not. In a very early stage startup you just simply cannot always afford the investment (time and/or money) needed to create a flexible enough environment to support someone who struggles with things like staying focused or working at a fast pace. And that's okay. Startups are a little over-romanticized anyway.
- bqmjjx0kac 5y ago
  > someone who struggles with things like staying focused or working at a fast pace. You might be surprised by the hyper-focus abilities of folks with ADHD. Keep in mind that your perception is skewed by selection bias — you probably already know many productive coworkers that never told you they have ADHD.
  - xedrac 5y ago
    Perhaps ADHD comes in many forms and severities. My wife has ADHD and her ability to "hyper-focus" is about as good as my ability to breath under water.
    - iamdbtoo 5y ago
      It absolutely does.
    - bqmjjx0kac 5y ago
      My experience of ADHD is that I hyperfocus on work because it's interesting. I'd basically do the same thing without medication, but I wouldn't be able to do my laundry or cook dinner at the end of the day because I'd be exhausted. ADHD symptoms are a multidimensional spectrum [citation needed], and so-called normal people lie somewhere on that spectrum. Making affordances for folks with ADHD is a win for everyone. For example: write meeting notes and assign action items, use a bug tracker, ask people if the process works for them.
- iamdbtoo 5y ago
  The fact that you think it takes so much work to do that means you don’t understand how it works.