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Old iphones become more stable if you change the region from France! In all seriousness, it frustrates me how much of the focus was on the bad half of the tra

Old iphones become more stable if you change the region from France! In all seriousness, it frustrates me how much of the focus was on the bad half of the tradeoff rather than the lack of messaging. Now you have people who believe apple deliberately slowed old models for no reason other than because they're old.

SLWW 5y ago
In the defense of those who like a faster phone. My iPhone would die randomly whenever it would try to draw too much on an old and dying battery. Thing was, it was slowed down already. If i was in France i would have replaced the battery sooner because i imagine it would happen a lot more frequently, and earlier on.
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yyyk 5y ago
No, the focus was exactly where Apple wanted it to be. Talking a lot about 'tradeoffs' when the real issue was Apple cheating its own customers - Apple denied the throttling, so people would buy a new iPhone instead of a cheap battery replacement.
- thebruce87m 5y ago
  Wouldn’t a rebooting phone have the same outcome? Why go to the bother of only targeting specific handsets with degraded batteries with this strategy? Why return the phone to full speed when you replaced the battery?
  - yyyk 5y ago
    >Wouldn’t a rebooting phone have the same outcome? Yes it would, but in a way that would have hurt the brand much more. >Why go to the bother of only targeting specific handsets with degraded batteries with this strategy? Why return the phone to full speed when you replaced the battery? The iOS patch wasn't all that specific, and it isn't sure it really did target degraded batteries. For all we know, they slowed down old devices without really checking the battery but merely assumed the battery was bad based on age. But assuming that Apple messaging is true this time, and remembering Apple used to deny the throttling, we can reach the logical conclusion: According to Apple itself, Apple benefited from consumers upgrading iPhones when they could have just upgraded the battery.
    - thebruce87m 5y ago
      It really was that specific. My wife’s phone was throttled and mine wasn’t. You could run a benchmark to find out until they updated the settings for more visibility. My wife never did get her battery replaced - she was just happy with her phone as it was. If it randomly rebooted she wouldn’t have been happy and would have upgraded. The feature still exists in iOS by the way, now it just tells you when it’s doing it and you can disable it if you prefer reboots. The feature kicks in when a brownout happens, that’s how its “targeted” at phones with degraded batteries.
sixothree 5y ago
Twice in my life an irreversible update has made an iPhone slow to the point of being unusable. People are skeptical for a reason.
- 6gvONxR4sf7o 5y ago
  On the flip side, my iphone used to crap out at random times when I really needed it.
  - chillwaves 5y ago
    That sounds terrible. I wouldn't know though because I have never had an Android phone do anything like that.
    - tdsamardzhiev 5y ago
      That means you’ve never ran a phone with a bad enough battery so that it would’ve started throttling if it were an iPhone. It’s simple physics, nothing to do with being an iPhone or Android.
      - chillwaves 5y ago
        I'm pretty sure software is a major factor. My Android phone is currently 5 years old and never done anything like that before. Neither have any of my Android phones in the past. If this is some law of physics, then why did it only happen to Apple phones?
        malshe 5y ago
        Yeah, if it didn’t happen to you doesn’t mean it didn’t happen to any of the hundreds of millions Android phones from a plethora of manufactures around the world. You can’t generalize from your anecdote.
    - kaba0 5y ago
      That’s because android phones won’t become old hardware-wise due to being made obsolete by software in like 3 years tops. And no, I’m not an apple fanboy, but even with this shitty behavior, iphones get some insane lifespans with usually many owners.

SLWW 5y ago

In the defense of those who like a faster phone. My iPhone would die randomly whenever it would try to draw too much on an old and dying battery. Thing was, it was slowed down already. If i was in France i would have replaced the battery sooner because i imagine it would happen a lot more frequently, and earlier on.

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yyyk 5y ago

No, the focus was exactly where Apple wanted it to be. Talking a lot about 'tradeoffs' when the real issue was Apple cheating its own customers - Apple denied the throttling, so people would buy a new iPhone instead of a cheap battery replacement.

thebruce87m 5y ago
Wouldn’t a rebooting phone have the same outcome? Why go to the bother of only targeting specific handsets with degraded batteries with this strategy? Why return the phone to full speed when you replaced the battery?
- yyyk 5y ago
  >Wouldn’t a rebooting phone have the same outcome? Yes it would, but in a way that would have hurt the brand much more. >Why go to the bother of only targeting specific handsets with degraded batteries with this strategy? Why return the phone to full speed when you replaced the battery? The iOS patch wasn't all that specific, and it isn't sure it really did target degraded batteries. For all we know, they slowed down old devices without really checking the battery but merely assumed the battery was bad based on age. But assuming that Apple messaging is true this time, and remembering Apple used to deny the throttling, we can reach the logical conclusion: According to Apple itself, Apple benefited from consumers upgrading iPhones when they could have just upgraded the battery.
  - thebruce87m 5y ago
    It really was that specific. My wife’s phone was throttled and mine wasn’t. You could run a benchmark to find out until they updated the settings for more visibility. My wife never did get her battery replaced - she was just happy with her phone as it was. If it randomly rebooted she wouldn’t have been happy and would have upgraded. The feature still exists in iOS by the way, now it just tells you when it’s doing it and you can disable it if you prefer reboots. The feature kicks in when a brownout happens, that’s how its “targeted” at phones with degraded batteries.

sixothree 5y ago

Twice in my life an irreversible update has made an iPhone slow to the point of being unusable. People are skeptical for a reason.

6gvONxR4sf7o 5y ago
On the flip side, my iphone used to crap out at random times when I really needed it.
- chillwaves 5y ago
  That sounds terrible. I wouldn't know though because I have never had an Android phone do anything like that.
  - tdsamardzhiev 5y ago
    That means you’ve never ran a phone with a bad enough battery so that it would’ve started throttling if it were an iPhone. It’s simple physics, nothing to do with being an iPhone or Android.
    - chillwaves 5y ago
      I'm pretty sure software is a major factor. My Android phone is currently 5 years old and never done anything like that before. Neither have any of my Android phones in the past. If this is some law of physics, then why did it only happen to Apple phones?
      - malshe 5y ago
        Yeah, if it didn’t happen to you doesn’t mean it didn’t happen to any of the hundreds of millions Android phones from a plethora of manufactures around the world. You can’t generalize from your anecdote.
  - kaba0 5y ago
    That’s because android phones won’t become old hardware-wise due to being made obsolete by software in like 3 years tops. And no, I’m not an apple fanboy, but even with this shitty behavior, iphones get some insane lifespans with usually many owners.