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> The throttling is there to prevent the instant shutdown due to old batteries having a lower peak output Sure, but it would be nice to be informed about it (s

> The throttling is there to prevent the instant shutdown due to old batteries having a lower peak output Sure, but it would be nice to be informed about it (so I can choose to get my battery replaced instead) and to be able to turn it off without changing the location to France

duskwuff 5y ago
> it would be nice to be informed about it You are. When the phone reboots as a result of power problems, you get a notification that says: "This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery was unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management has been applied to help prevent this from happening again." Describing CPU throttling as "performance management" is perhaps a little stilted, but all the basic information is there. > to be able to turn it off without changing the location to France You can. It's in the Battery settings. It's not super obvious (small text link that says "Disable..." after a description of the throttling), but it's there.
- clusterfish 5y ago
  For comparison, on Mac when the battery starts dying, you get a persistent warning in the menu bar battery indicator. Hard to miss it every day. On the iPhone, the one-time alert with cryptic language will just be dismissed by most users without a second thought. Doesn't matter that the capability to turn this "feature" off is buried somewhere in the settings when most people don't know about it. Apple knows how to design good UI. If they wanted to prompt people to replace batteries, they would find a good way to do that. But they much prefer people buying new phones instead.
  - snet0 5y ago
    Saying the feature is "buried somewhere in settings" feels like a biased framing. Settings are in the settings menu. This is a setting so it's in the settings menu. I assume it's categorised in some way that makes sense. Is any feature that 2 taps deep "buried"?
    - clusterfish 5y ago
      If you don't know that it's the battery causing your phone to be slow, you as an average user will never find that setting. And if you skip that one time dialog (by mistake or due to dialog fatigue), you won't even suspect the battery. Most users aren't technical and have no idea why a weaker battery would cause throttling.
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  It's there yes but it was only added as a result of the controversy.
  - kgermino 5y ago
    > it was only added as a result of the controversy. 3 years ago. We’re well past the point where that’s a fair complaint
    - pverghese 5y ago
      It was wrong then and is wrong now
      - pertymcpert 5y ago
        How is it wrong now? Right now, the issue is clearly explained and can be disabled.
- gattilorenz 5y ago
  Ah, thanks! Not having had an iPhone after the 2G one, I couldn't check myself, and I had assumed that these details would be mentioned at the beginning of the article... I think it was an unfair move from Apple at the beginning, but given your description it seems the current status is fair and the article is basically a click bait.

duskwuff 5y ago

> it would be nice to be informed about it You are. When the phone reboots as a result of power problems, you get a notification that says: "This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery was unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management has been applied to help prevent this from happening again." Describing CPU throttling as "performance management" is perhaps a little stilted, but all the basic information is there. > to be able to turn it off without changing the location to France You can. It's in the Battery settings. It's not super obvious (small text link that says "Disable..." after a description of the throttling), but it's there.

clusterfish 5y ago
For comparison, on Mac when the battery starts dying, you get a persistent warning in the menu bar battery indicator. Hard to miss it every day. On the iPhone, the one-time alert with cryptic language will just be dismissed by most users without a second thought. Doesn't matter that the capability to turn this "feature" off is buried somewhere in the settings when most people don't know about it. Apple knows how to design good UI. If they wanted to prompt people to replace batteries, they would find a good way to do that. But they much prefer people buying new phones instead.
- snet0 5y ago
  Saying the feature is "buried somewhere in settings" feels like a biased framing. Settings are in the settings menu. This is a setting so it's in the settings menu. I assume it's categorised in some way that makes sense. Is any feature that 2 taps deep "buried"?
  - clusterfish 5y ago
    If you don't know that it's the battery causing your phone to be slow, you as an average user will never find that setting. And if you skip that one time dialog (by mistake or due to dialog fatigue), you won't even suspect the battery. Most users aren't technical and have no idea why a weaker battery would cause throttling.
GekkePrutser 5y ago
It's there yes but it was only added as a result of the controversy.
- kgermino 5y ago
  > it was only added as a result of the controversy. 3 years ago. We’re well past the point where that’s a fair complaint
  - pverghese 5y ago
    It was wrong then and is wrong now
    - pertymcpert 5y ago
      How is it wrong now? Right now, the issue is clearly explained and can be disabled.
gattilorenz 5y ago
Ah, thanks! Not having had an iPhone after the 2G one, I couldn't check myself, and I had assumed that these details would be mentioned at the beginning of the article... I think it was an unfair move from Apple at the beginning, but given your description it seems the current status is fair and the article is basically a click bait.