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pretty high if people won't use them because they don't trust them.

dougmwne 5y ago
If you think governments can't simply legislate away people's freedom to drive in the service of corporate profits or what's "best for them", you haven't read the news lately.
- cgrealy 5y ago
  You must be reading different news. Governments (especially the US) can't even get people to stay at home for a while to avoid a deadly disease. It's borderline impossible that they will "legislate away people's freedom to drive" anytime soon. Even if a startup appeared tomorrow that could unequivocally show that they have a perfect self-driving car that runs on fairy dust and cleans up cities as it goes, people would still demand their right to drive ICEs.
- detaro 5y ago
  At least here in Germany, even "let's maybe have a speed limit on all the Autobahns" is highly contested. (And one half-joking suggestion has been to introduce a speed limit only for ICE cars as a motivation to go electric)
- make3 5y ago
  It's funny how Americans seem to have accepted the idea that corporations control their political life
  - dougmwne 5y ago
    I wouldn't say agreed with, but mostly accepted a reality they have no power to change.
- andrewzah 5y ago
  "If you think governments can't simply legislate away people's freedom to drive" Less drunk, distracted, angry, and/or sleepy drivers on public roads, with overall significantly less crashes? Sign me up!
  - dougmwne 5y ago
    That would be an ideal outcome, but plenty of people would need to be economically or legally forced. Cross-reference to vaccines.
    - andrewzah 5y ago
      Freedom clearly does not work in a self-centered society. We wouldn't need such drastic actions if enough people voluntarily did the right things. But not enough do, so here we are. I'm really beginning to get sick of seeing people use the word "freedom" when they clearly mean "no personal responsibility while living in a society among other people".

If you think governments can't simply legislate away people's freedom to drive in the service of corporate profits or what's "best for them", you haven't read the news lately.

cgrealy 5y ago
You must be reading different news. Governments (especially the US) can't even get people to stay at home for a while to avoid a deadly disease. It's borderline impossible that they will "legislate away people's freedom to drive" anytime soon. Even if a startup appeared tomorrow that could unequivocally show that they have a perfect self-driving car that runs on fairy dust and cleans up cities as it goes, people would still demand their right to drive ICEs.
detaro 5y ago
At least here in Germany, even "let's maybe have a speed limit on all the Autobahns" is highly contested. (And one half-joking suggestion has been to introduce a speed limit only for ICE cars as a motivation to go electric)
make3 5y ago
It's funny how Americans seem to have accepted the idea that corporations control their political life
- dougmwne 5y ago
  I wouldn't say agreed with, but mostly accepted a reality they have no power to change.
andrewzah 5y ago
"If you think governments can't simply legislate away people's freedom to drive" Less drunk, distracted, angry, and/or sleepy drivers on public roads, with overall significantly less crashes? Sign me up!
- dougmwne 5y ago
  That would be an ideal outcome, but plenty of people would need to be economically or legally forced. Cross-reference to vaccines.
  - andrewzah 5y ago
    Freedom clearly does not work in a self-centered society. We wouldn't need such drastic actions if enough people voluntarily did the right things. But not enough do, so here we are. I'm really beginning to get sick of seeing people use the word "freedom" when they clearly mean "no personal responsibility while living in a society among other people".