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> So, how is Tesla's autopilot meaningfully different from that? Simple. The user of the tesla autopilot is a car driver that is 'qualified' to drive a car. D

> So, how is Tesla's autopilot meaningfully different from that? Simple. The user of the tesla autopilot is a car driver that is 'qualified' to drive a car. Driving licence doesnt entail knowledge of how to use tesla's 'autopilot' You are literately equating a car driver to an air-plane pilot! A pilot that need to be specifically train for a given model of a plane, and its autopilot. A pilot that is fully aware of the scope of the planes autopilot functionality, also pilot cannot 'go for a nap' when autopilot is engaged.

datameta 5y ago
On top of that, the threat model of potential obstacles in the sky is far simpler. On an airliner you have a heading and speed for every tracked aircraft in your vicinity and the buffer zones are far greater, even accounting for relative increase in speed. It is much more difficult to predict and quickly respond to edge case obstacles and erratic agent behavior on the road. Perhaps there would be an analogy here if there was something like a centralized control center for autonomous vehicles (rife with opportunities for system-wide hacks and corporate/gov't abuse) or if vehicles were networked and shared travel vector and size data.
DamnInteresting 5y ago
Well, I agree with much of what you say, but all I was trying to say is this: If 'autopilot' is a misleading name for Tesla's advanced driver assist system, then isn't it also misleading for airliners to use that term? To me, the two systems appear to be very similar in what they can do.
- me_me_me 5y ago
  the only thing both have in common is the spelling
  - DamnInteresting 5y ago
    If you're not interested in having a rational discussion about it, you can just say so.
    - me_me_me 5y ago
      I would like to point out that you are pushing square through circular hole insisting you are doing it right. Tesla's Autopilot and plane autopilot are different technology requiring different level of training and skill to operate. Equating both due to name and extrapolating that common person should know better when driving their tesla is slippery-slope towards victim blaming. Just accept you were wrong.
      - DamnInteresting 5y ago
        > slippery-slope towards victim blaming You forgot to add "straw man cognitive dissonance Dunning–Kruger" to your little fallacy salad.
        me_me_me 5y ago
        Hmmm. I see you are out to embarrass yourself even more. Do go one share your thoughts.

datameta 5y ago

On top of that, the threat model of potential obstacles in the sky is far simpler. On an airliner you have a heading and speed for every tracked aircraft in your vicinity and the buffer zones are far greater, even accounting for relative increase in speed. It is much more difficult to predict and quickly respond to edge case obstacles and erratic agent behavior on the road. Perhaps there would be an analogy here if there was something like a centralized control center for autonomous vehicles (rife with opportunities for system-wide hacks and corporate/gov't abuse) or if vehicles were networked and shared travel vector and size data.

DamnInteresting 5y ago

Well, I agree with much of what you say, but all I was trying to say is this: If 'autopilot' is a misleading name for Tesla's advanced driver assist system, then isn't it also misleading for airliners to use that term? To me, the two systems appear to be very similar in what they can do.

me_me_me 5y ago
the only thing both have in common is the spelling
- DamnInteresting 5y ago
  If you're not interested in having a rational discussion about it, you can just say so.
  - me_me_me 5y ago
    I would like to point out that you are pushing square through circular hole insisting you are doing it right. Tesla's Autopilot and plane autopilot are different technology requiring different level of training and skill to operate. Equating both due to name and extrapolating that common person should know better when driving their tesla is slippery-slope towards victim blaming. Just accept you were wrong.
    - DamnInteresting 5y ago
      > slippery-slope towards victim blaming You forgot to add "straw man cognitive dissonance Dunning–Kruger" to your little fallacy salad.
      - me_me_me 5y ago
        Hmmm. I see you are out to embarrass yourself even more. Do go one share your thoughts.