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They've already rejected doing nothing, as it doesn't work. I want Tesla to give me a free car too, but it ain't happening. At some point a company makes deci

They've already rejected doing nothing, as it doesn't work. I want Tesla to give me a free car too, but it ain't happening. At some point a company makes decisions you aren't gonna agree with and your only recourse is to not use them. If that means you can't read Twitter, then that's the price you pay. You aren't "owed" a free Twitter account solely on your own personal terms.

johnnyanmac 5y ago
>You aren't "owed" a free Twitter account no you see, that's the problem. I don't WANT a twitter account, but I apparently need to use the site to view local updates in my town. I'm perfectly happy continuing to not post there. I just don't see the benefit in making me find an extension around this annoyance so I can continue to not have a twitter account.
ballenf 5y ago
No one's asking for a free car. They're asking for a stop to major companies lying to the public. To stop harvesting people's data under false pretenses. I think citizens can and should demand those things from companies that choose to incorporate in their country. That avail themselves of the legal systems and protections. That take advantage of the workforce present. Companies are free to choose where they operate and incorporate.
- dustymcp 5y ago
  Yet customers love free stuff, aslong as they can send cat pictures they dont care.
throw6746 5y ago
> You aren't "owed" a free Twitter account solely on your own personal terms. It's funny that all those companies are trying to get so big and so central to our lives, to the point many news (including from police precincts or first responders) are only posted on twitter or fb, yet when you point out they shouldn't ask you a phone number to access them it's "they owe you nothing".
- swader999 5y ago
  If they have a monopoly on the public square, arguments could be made...
  - int_19h 5y ago
    ... to break them up?
    - swader999 5y ago
      Play nicer as a start.
  - JadeNB 5y ago
    There should not be a channel for government communications that is only available upon giving money or information to a private party. (But that's a ship that sailed long before the internet age. "Want to know the laws? Pay up!")
    - riffic 5y ago
      talk to your electeds about regulation then. Public sector and publicly funded groups should be communicating through standards-based channels. Their content belongs to the digital commons. This exists today, via the ActivityPub and RSS sphere of ecosystems.
- leephillips 5y ago
  But you can’t blame that on Twitter, no matter how much they welcome it and how evil they are. Blame it on unspeakably bad judgement on the part of government employees. Making Twitter the conduit for official communications? I can’t even fathom the mindset.
tkiolp4 5y ago
First they came... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...
2pEXgD0fZ5cF 5y ago
> You aren't "owed" a free Twitter account solely on your own personal terms. If we go that route of argumentation: Can Twitter please close shop and go away then? Their value is vastly overestimated: Most people don't want to use Twitter specifically, they are peer pressured into it because it is where everyone is. There are better free and open source alternatives without them trying to steal from me. Twitter burns all that money (do they generate a profit yet?) to stay on top, just so that nobody else can. To stay with your analogy: Tesla rolled up and pushed every other car manufacturer out, now they are giving a somewhat free car and in return they want you to do everything they say, and the keys to your house "just in case". We don't owe Twitter anything.

johnnyanmac 5y ago

>You aren't "owed" a free Twitter account no you see, that's the problem. I don't WANT a twitter account, but I apparently need to use the site to view local updates in my town. I'm perfectly happy continuing to not post there. I just don't see the benefit in making me find an extension around this annoyance so I can continue to not have a twitter account.

ballenf 5y ago

No one's asking for a free car. They're asking for a stop to major companies lying to the public. To stop harvesting people's data under false pretenses. I think citizens can and should demand those things from companies that choose to incorporate in their country. That avail themselves of the legal systems and protections. That take advantage of the workforce present. Companies are free to choose where they operate and incorporate.

dustymcp 5y ago
Yet customers love free stuff, aslong as they can send cat pictures they dont care.

throw6746 5y ago

> You aren't "owed" a free Twitter account solely on your own personal terms. It's funny that all those companies are trying to get so big and so central to our lives, to the point many news (including from police precincts or first responders) are only posted on twitter or fb, yet when you point out they shouldn't ask you a phone number to access them it's "they owe you nothing".

swader999 5y ago
If they have a monopoly on the public square, arguments could be made...
- int_19h 5y ago
  ... to break them up?
  - swader999 5y ago
    Play nicer as a start.
- JadeNB 5y ago
  There should not be a channel for government communications that is only available upon giving money or information to a private party. (But that's a ship that sailed long before the internet age. "Want to know the laws? Pay up!")
  - riffic 5y ago
    talk to your electeds about regulation then. Public sector and publicly funded groups should be communicating through standards-based channels. Their content belongs to the digital commons. This exists today, via the ActivityPub and RSS sphere of ecosystems.
leephillips 5y ago
But you can’t blame that on Twitter, no matter how much they welcome it and how evil they are. Blame it on unspeakably bad judgement on the part of government employees. Making Twitter the conduit for official communications? I can’t even fathom the mindset.

tkiolp4 5y ago

First they came... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

2pEXgD0fZ5cF 5y ago

> You aren't "owed" a free Twitter account solely on your own personal terms. If we go that route of argumentation: Can Twitter please close shop and go away then? Their value is vastly overestimated: Most people don't want to use Twitter specifically, they are peer pressured into it because it is where everyone is. There are better free and open source alternatives without them trying to steal from me. Twitter burns all that money (do they generate a profit yet?) to stay on top, just so that nobody else can. To stay with your analogy: Tesla rolled up and pushed every other car manufacturer out, now they are giving a somewhat free car and in return they want you to do everything they say, and the keys to your house "just in case". We don't owe Twitter anything.