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Facebook Is Allowing Ivermectin Ads at a Time When It Shouldn’t

11 points by onychomys 5y ago

Grakel 5y ago
Facebook should be regulated like a utility and banned from banning anything.
- verdverm 5y ago
  I used to think this, but there are some serious downsides. Too many bad actors who would take advantage of it. I don't use FB, so I'm not sure you can call it a utility anyhow. which path is the least likely to enable society to self-destruct? Perhaps covid could be a good analogy and inspiration for how to deal with social media. Social distancing, vaccines, try to get the transmission rate down...
  - spiderice 5y ago
    > I don't use FB, so I'm not sure you can call it a utility anyhow I'm not sure this logic really holds up..
    - verdverm 5y ago
      Social media is different from a utility, a publisher, and a public space. It has its own uniqueness and nuances. Trying to shoehorn it into existing frameworks is not sufficient to solve the problems.
  - Grakel 5y ago
    Bad actors use TV news, bad actors use movies, the mail, pen and paper, guns. Stop trying to parent people, even if they are mostly dumb, they have the right to be.
    - verdverm 5y ago
      Not sure how the jump to parenting follows... I'm more advocating for slowing the viral factor of content spread rather than eliminating it. Some content will always need to be removed. How much leeway does a company get to choose who can participate? Does the monetization model effect this?
h2odragon 5y ago
Wouldn't a good response be to publicize the recommended and "do not exceed" dosages of the various widely available formulations of ivermectrin? Is the problem that people are using this; or that they may have wrong beliefs? Ivermectrin is great, it's one of those chemicals that has made the world a better place. I've used it on hounds and livestock for years and am very glad to have had it available. Worms are EVIL If this story was s/Ivermectrin/CBD/ would anyone's position on the issue stay the same?
- jwilk 5y ago
  What's CBD?
  - vibrato2 5y ago
    Cannabidiol, which also shows about an order of magnitude decrease in covid infections from this study. Another promising therapeutic. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7987002/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7987002/
- fendy3002 5y ago
  Well my company took initiative to supply ivermectin to all of their employees, to the point where it feels like a requirement to take it. I don't know whether it's bad or not or if the boss consult with medical personnel first, but the dosage is strictly applied. I treated it as medicine against worm, since it's been years since I took one, so I don't really mind that. Otherwise, I wouldn't take it.
- vfclists 5y ago
  Ivermectin not IvermectRin.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
- captainmuon 5y ago
  If it's proven that Ivermectin causes more harm than good, shouldn't the authorities do test purchases, follow the money, and then charge whoever sells this with negligent bodily harm ot similar? More controversial, maybe it should be just illegal to run misinformation campaigns that harm people in a crisis like this. I know people will say, what about free speech, but we already regulate health claims. And in a war it is/was illegal to spread misinformation that helps the enemy, so why not in a crisis like this?
vfclists 5y ago
If Ivermectin is made available on prescription or over the counter why would people use incorrect veterinary formulations? Ivermectin together with Hydroxychloroquine are safe drugs OTC which have been around longer than the Covid vaccines, yet for some reason they are now considered more dangerous then Covid vaccines which have killed and injured more people in the short time they have been available. Hydroxychloroquine is an over the counter drug in the US in the form of plaquenil, and Ivermectin is in other countries. Why has Covid suddenly made them so dangerous?

11 points by onychomys 5y ago

Grakel 5y ago

Facebook should be regulated like a utility and banned from banning anything.

verdverm 5y ago
I used to think this, but there are some serious downsides. Too many bad actors who would take advantage of it. I don't use FB, so I'm not sure you can call it a utility anyhow. which path is the least likely to enable society to self-destruct? Perhaps covid could be a good analogy and inspiration for how to deal with social media. Social distancing, vaccines, try to get the transmission rate down...
- spiderice 5y ago
  > I don't use FB, so I'm not sure you can call it a utility anyhow I'm not sure this logic really holds up..
  - verdverm 5y ago
    Social media is different from a utility, a publisher, and a public space. It has its own uniqueness and nuances. Trying to shoehorn it into existing frameworks is not sufficient to solve the problems.
- Grakel 5y ago
  Bad actors use TV news, bad actors use movies, the mail, pen and paper, guns. Stop trying to parent people, even if they are mostly dumb, they have the right to be.
  - verdverm 5y ago
    Not sure how the jump to parenting follows... I'm more advocating for slowing the viral factor of content spread rather than eliminating it. Some content will always need to be removed. How much leeway does a company get to choose who can participate? Does the monetization model effect this?

h2odragon 5y ago

Wouldn't a good response be to publicize the recommended and "do not exceed" dosages of the various widely available formulations of ivermectrin? Is the problem that people are using this; or that they may have wrong beliefs? Ivermectrin is great, it's one of those chemicals that has made the world a better place. I've used it on hounds and livestock for years and am very glad to have had it available. Worms are EVIL If this story was s/Ivermectrin/CBD/ would anyone's position on the issue stay the same?

jwilk 5y ago
What's CBD?
- vibrato2 5y ago
  Cannabidiol, which also shows about an order of magnitude decrease in covid infections from this study. Another promising therapeutic. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7987002/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7987002/
fendy3002 5y ago
Well my company took initiative to supply ivermectin to all of their employees, to the point where it feels like a requirement to take it. I don't know whether it's bad or not or if the boss consult with medical personnel first, but the dosage is strictly applied. I treated it as medicine against worm, since it's been years since I took one, so I don't really mind that. Otherwise, I wouldn't take it.
vfclists 5y ago
Ivermectin not IvermectRin.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
captainmuon 5y ago
If it's proven that Ivermectin causes more harm than good, shouldn't the authorities do test purchases, follow the money, and then charge whoever sells this with negligent bodily harm ot similar? More controversial, maybe it should be just illegal to run misinformation campaigns that harm people in a crisis like this. I know people will say, what about free speech, but we already regulate health claims. And in a war it is/was illegal to spread misinformation that helps the enemy, so why not in a crisis like this?

vfclists 5y ago

If Ivermectin is made available on prescription or over the counter why would people use incorrect veterinary formulations? Ivermectin together with Hydroxychloroquine are safe drugs OTC which have been around longer than the Covid vaccines, yet for some reason they are now considered more dangerous then Covid vaccines which have killed and injured more people in the short time they have been available. Hydroxychloroquine is an over the counter drug in the US in the form of plaquenil, and Ivermectin is in other countries. Why has Covid suddenly made them so dangerous?