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Never buy devices with non-free firmware. They're always full of garbage like this.
by swiley 5y ago
Never buy devices with non-free firmware. They're always full of garbage like this.
- brnt 5y agoDoesn't that rule out any phone?
- teddyh 5y agoNot, reportedly, the Librem 5 phone.
- ERD0L 5y agoA phone, sure, a smartphone, not a chance
- teddyh 5y agoThe Librem 5 is absolutely a smartphone: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/ https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/
- 0-_-0 5y agoYour linked page calls it a "phone" not a "smartphone", so you're proving GP's point.
- teddyh 5y agoWhat. By that definition, the Google Pixel 5a is not a “smartphone” either, since its product page does not use that term, either: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5a_5g?hl=en-US https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5a_5g?hl=en-US
- yellowapple 5y agoBy what metric is it somehow not a smartphone?
- grishka 5y agoBut it still contains a cellular modem and a wifi module, both of which run proprietary firmwares.
- teddyh 5y agoBut, crucially, they both run externally to the CPU and main system, and can not affect it in any way. It’s just as if they had put the firmware on a ROM chip beside the modem and wifi chip.
- andrew_ 5y agomy needs are more utilitarian - I need a smart phone that's waterproof. Not a single one of the libre* phones are waterproof, let alone reasonably water resistant, so they're a nonstarter for me. I'm a nerd but I'm also outdoorsy. My phones have gone for swims in the Gulf of Mexico and been caught in squals more times than I can count.
- rightbyte 5y agoMy experience is that water proof phones ironically are more prone to water damage since they don't drain. Simple moist in a tent can kill it.
- jhanschoo 5y agoCan you give examples from your experience?
- rightbyte 5y agoMy current phone, Samsung S9, got ruined in a moist tent. It said "water in charging port" and refused to charge since that point. Samsung fixed on warranty. My wifes prior phone got cracks on it and it seemed to let in moist and then not drain or get dry. Something fried in it.
- andrew_ 5y agoI had an S7 for years, and then upgraded to an S10e. I was just in a pool yesterday with the S10e taking video. The charging port message is to prevent damage. If the message never goes away or you have intrusion, that's a valid warranty claim.