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And you can lose your job for posting a controversial opinion in the US, completely privatized. It's a way more stable system. Allow a very narrow band of opi

And you can lose your job for posting a controversial opinion in the US, completely privatized. It's a way more stable system. Allow a very narrow band of opinions in practice while claiming that everyone's free to think whatever they want in theory.

persedes 5y ago
I've heard that sentiment, but does that actually happen? At least without the company being sued for violating someones freedom of speech. The last very public case I'm aware of was Damore at google, which they must've settled outside of court.
- voakbasda 5y ago
  Are you familiar with cancel culture? Free speech does not apply in private companies. Post something stupid on the inter webs, and you will lose your job and have no recourse.
  - collegeburner 5y ago
    It's not just that they target jobs but they also try to keep people from getting new ones after being fired. Ironic that these same people are often the ones saying that housing and food are human rights then they effectively try to take them from people for disagreeing.
boredumb 5y ago
sure but you have the ability to post under a moniker that isn't tied to my SSN that private places are able to query against.
- refenestrator 5y ago
  Look at the news the last two weeks, blanket condemnation of the Afghanistan withdrawal despite 70÷ approval for it and the fact that all of these educated news people have been around watching for the last 20 years. Yet we can't get a microphone, airtime or column inches for anyone in favor of the withdrawal. I'm free to post pseudonymously though!
  - bbarnett 5y ago
    I wonder if some corps are upset they won't be selling more bullets and gas to the army? First Korea, now this...
    - shadilay 5y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Zaharoff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Zaharoff
- encryptluks2 5y ago
  And businesses has the right to deny employment or fire you without reason. So, who knows if they paid their friend(s) over at Twitter or wherever to tell them what you're posting on your alts. It is a system ripe for corruption and that is all that matters.
da_big_ghey 5y ago
it is not removing all option, self-employing can be and also retirees are not subject to any such restrainting. i am in agreement that it is not perfect see no simple solution

persedes 5y ago

I've heard that sentiment, but does that actually happen? At least without the company being sued for violating someones freedom of speech. The last very public case I'm aware of was Damore at google, which they must've settled outside of court.

voakbasda 5y ago
Are you familiar with cancel culture? Free speech does not apply in private companies. Post something stupid on the inter webs, and you will lose your job and have no recourse.
- collegeburner 5y ago
  It's not just that they target jobs but they also try to keep people from getting new ones after being fired. Ironic that these same people are often the ones saying that housing and food are human rights then they effectively try to take them from people for disagreeing.

boredumb 5y ago

sure but you have the ability to post under a moniker that isn't tied to my SSN that private places are able to query against.

refenestrator 5y ago
Look at the news the last two weeks, blanket condemnation of the Afghanistan withdrawal despite 70÷ approval for it and the fact that all of these educated news people have been around watching for the last 20 years. Yet we can't get a microphone, airtime or column inches for anyone in favor of the withdrawal. I'm free to post pseudonymously though!
- bbarnett 5y ago
  I wonder if some corps are upset they won't be selling more bullets and gas to the army? First Korea, now this...
  - shadilay 5y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Zaharoff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Zaharoff
encryptluks2 5y ago
And businesses has the right to deny employment or fire you without reason. So, who knows if they paid their friend(s) over at Twitter or wherever to tell them what you're posting on your alts. It is a system ripe for corruption and that is all that matters.

da_big_ghey 5y ago

it is not removing all option, self-employing can be and also retirees are not subject to any such restrainting. i am in agreement that it is not perfect see no simple solution