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Points one by one: - If you believe sky cluttering isn't a problem, I can't argue against that. I believe it's much bigger problem, than metallic wires across l

by dgan 5y ago

Points one by one: - If you believe sky cluttering isn't a problem, I can't argue against that. I believe it's much bigger problem, than metallic wires across land fields. Just because metal wires are localized, but tens of thousands satellites, are all flying above OUR heads (yes, mine included, while I don't live in a country where I have a word to say about Elon's narcissistic dreams). - 4G works awesomely. There are already satellite internet providers if you live in such rural area, they offers up to 50mbps bandwidth, for 50$ monthly - Huh? So you believe that 3rd world country is not able to build 4/5G towers, but their citizens are somehow able to pay monthly fees for internet to an American billionaire? Or maybe the fees will be somehow so low that 1$ per day will be plenty enough to pay for satellite infrastructure? Wait, for satellite infrastructure that needs to be replaced every 5 years? How does your math works? You are completely delusional. - Not running windows, but I disgress. My point is to compare today available satellites, to SpaceX sattelites. You are comparing on different time periods, while I am not. Those 20 years serving ARE still made today! Your comparison is invalid.

inglor_cz 5y ago
"tens of thousands satellites, are all flying above OUR heads" Do you feel threatened by them, or just resent the fact that they will alter the look of the night sky, especially around sunset and sunrise? I can understand the latter, but communication satellites in orbit aren't a safety problem for people on the surface, unlike, say, every drone that someone flies in your proximity. "4G works awesomely." This is very local, I can't even get 4G coverage at some places literally on the border of Prague, a major European capital. Not a wilderness by any means. "You are completely delusional." Stop that shit. And do not attack my math, I actually graduated in algebra and number theory. Seriously, to calculate returns on Starlink in the future, you need to assess several variables such as launch cost, manufacture cost, personnel cost and total # of customers. These are not yet known with necessary precision into the future, so we can only guesstimate. If we take Musk's admission that Starlink needs 30 billion USD to survive, 10 million paying end customers worldwide should be more than enough. That is not that much, compared to the world population. And we do not know how much extra money are getting from customers such as the US Army which is really intrigued with Starlink. "Those 20 years serving ARE still made today! Your comparison is invalid. " So yes, they are. Do they provide a service on 2021 quality level? There are steam engines still in operation, but that does not mean that the technology isn't obsolete.

by dgan 5y ago

inglor_cz 5y ago

"tens of thousands satellites, are all flying above OUR heads" Do you feel threatened by them, or just resent the fact that they will alter the look of the night sky, especially around sunset and sunrise? I can understand the latter, but communication satellites in orbit aren't a safety problem for people on the surface, unlike, say, every drone that someone flies in your proximity. "4G works awesomely." This is very local, I can't even get 4G coverage at some places literally on the border of Prague, a major European capital. Not a wilderness by any means. "You are completely delusional." Stop that shit. And do not attack my math, I actually graduated in algebra and number theory. Seriously, to calculate returns on Starlink in the future, you need to assess several variables such as launch cost, manufacture cost, personnel cost and total # of customers. These are not yet known with necessary precision into the future, so we can only guesstimate. If we take Musk's admission that Starlink needs 30 billion USD to survive, 10 million paying end customers worldwide should be more than enough. That is not that much, compared to the world population. And we do not know how much extra money are getting from customers such as the US Army which is really intrigued with Starlink. "Those 20 years serving ARE still made today! Your comparison is invalid. " So yes, they are. Do they provide a service on 2021 quality level? There are steam engines still in operation, but that does not mean that the technology isn't obsolete.