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Somehow I have a feeling that each passing day, things are getting tighter and tighter and private corporation and government institutions are getting more cont

Somehow I have a feeling that each passing day, things are getting tighter and tighter and private corporation and government institutions are getting more controlling and totalitarian. That feeling like slowly being boiled into 1984.

xyst 5y ago
Apple is already half way there to be honest.
- rangerdan 5y ago
  How do people not realize this, even when it's been made so painfully obvious with their photo scanning debacle? There is *zero* privacy on closed source, proprietary, for-profit, shareholder-owned platforms. Zero, zip, zilch, nada. They own the platform and they own your behavior when you use their products.
bserge 5y ago
Basic human nature, push it as far as the other side will take it. If the other side is significantly weaker they'll compromise a lot before they snap and push back, or try to.
sebastianconcpt 5y ago
The third world is becoming 1984, the first world is debating itself to either become the third world or A Brave New World.
ksm1717 5y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
rajin444 5y ago
Won't be hard to pivot the NYC vaccine pass into the NYC health pass.
nanis 5y ago
Various parts of the U.S. are already there. You know where those are if you live in them. Ask yourself: How many times have stopped yourself from asserting 2 + 2 indeed is four[1] in conversations with colleagues, neighbors, teachers, or even family because you may lose your income or worse if you did not at least remain silent in the face of assertions to the contrary? For those not familiar, here is the beginning of the relevant passage[1]: > 'It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party. That is the fact that you have got to relearn, Winston. It needs an act of self-destruction, an effort of the will. You must humble yourself before you can become sane.' > He paused for a few moments, as though to allow what he had been saying to sink in. > 'Do you remember,' he went on, 'writing in your diary, "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four"?' > 'Yes,' said Winston. > O'Brien held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, with the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended. > 'How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?' > 'Four.' > 'And if the party says that it is not four but five—then how many?' > ... [1]: https://2x2.rocks/ https://2x2.rocks/
- benrbray 5y ago
  You don't indicate a political slant, but this is an alt-right take on American politics if I've ever seen one. I would counter with: For a couple hundred years, Americans insisted 2+2=5. It was even enshrined in law for the first hundred or so years. We eventually agreed on a compromise, 2+2=4.5, but some of our lives depend on the answer to this math problem, so we're not going to stop fighting for 2+2=4. Sure enough, if you work as an engineer, you're going to be fired if your answer isn't within tolerance.
  - nanis 5y ago
    > an alt-right take No. Please do not try to label me.
- xphilter 5y ago
  Ok, I’ll indulge you. What is the 2+2=4 for you that you are prevented from saying?
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evergrande 5y ago
Australia may already be there. Seriously, watch this 2 minute news report. They are handcuffing, fining and publicly shaming teenagers for "being outside without a reasonable excuse". https://twitter.com/CharlieEmmaUK/status/1429471216260235266 https://twitter.com/CharlieEmmaUK/status/1429471216260235266
hughrr 5y ago
I believe the low quality low hanging fruits of my life are being slowly squeezed out by stupid corporate and government policies. But it’s a glass half full for those aware and able to see it for what it is. The end game is me sitting under a tree somewhere with a picnic in the middle of nowhere with someone I have a genuine connection with and no technology at hand.
- dTal 5y ago
  Hah. Good luck finding a "genuine connection" without technology, in a world where technology mediates every interaction.
minikites 5y ago
>private corporation and government institutions are getting more controlling and totalitarian At least I have a voice in government. I don't get a voice when Experian (or Google, or any private company) decides to blacklist me arbitrarily.
- dylan604 5y ago
  How long before your creditworthiness determines your eligibility to vote? Don't laugh, or Texas will find a way to use it! (as a Texan ashamed of current moves against voting)
pbaka 5y ago
Something something Chinese social credit evil, something something fighting for "freedom" and "democracy".
frashelaw 5y ago
Something something Chinese social credit evil, something something fighting for "freedom" and "democracy".

xyst 5y ago

Apple is already half way there to be honest.

rangerdan 5y ago
How do people not realize this, even when it's been made so painfully obvious with their photo scanning debacle? There is *zero* privacy on closed source, proprietary, for-profit, shareholder-owned platforms. Zero, zip, zilch, nada. They own the platform and they own your behavior when you use their products.

bserge 5y ago

Basic human nature, push it as far as the other side will take it. If the other side is significantly weaker they'll compromise a lot before they snap and push back, or try to.

sebastianconcpt 5y ago

The third world is becoming 1984, the first world is debating itself to either become the third world or A Brave New World.

ksm1717 5y ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism

rajin444 5y ago

Won't be hard to pivot the NYC vaccine pass into the NYC health pass.

nanis 5y ago

Various parts of the U.S. are already there. You know where those are if you live in them. Ask yourself: How many times have stopped yourself from asserting 2 + 2 indeed is four[1] in conversations with colleagues, neighbors, teachers, or even family because you may lose your income or worse if you did not at least remain silent in the face of assertions to the contrary? For those not familiar, here is the beginning of the relevant passage[1]: > 'It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party. That is the fact that you have got to relearn, Winston. It needs an act of self-destruction, an effort of the will. You must humble yourself before you can become sane.' > He paused for a few moments, as though to allow what he had been saying to sink in. > 'Do you remember,' he went on, 'writing in your diary, "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four"?' > 'Yes,' said Winston. > O'Brien held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, with the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended. > 'How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?' > 'Four.' > 'And if the party says that it is not four but five—then how many?' > ... [1]: https://2x2.rocks/ https://2x2.rocks/

benrbray 5y ago
You don't indicate a political slant, but this is an alt-right take on American politics if I've ever seen one. I would counter with: For a couple hundred years, Americans insisted 2+2=5. It was even enshrined in law for the first hundred or so years. We eventually agreed on a compromise, 2+2=4.5, but some of our lives depend on the answer to this math problem, so we're not going to stop fighting for 2+2=4. Sure enough, if you work as an engineer, you're going to be fired if your answer isn't within tolerance.
- nanis 5y ago
  > an alt-right take No. Please do not try to label me.
xphilter 5y ago
Ok, I’ll indulge you. What is the 2+2=4 for you that you are prevented from saying?

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evergrande 5y ago

Australia may already be there. Seriously, watch this 2 minute news report. They are handcuffing, fining and publicly shaming teenagers for "being outside without a reasonable excuse". https://twitter.com/CharlieEmmaUK/status/1429471216260235266 https://twitter.com/CharlieEmmaUK/status/1429471216260235266

hughrr 5y ago

I believe the low quality low hanging fruits of my life are being slowly squeezed out by stupid corporate and government policies. But it’s a glass half full for those aware and able to see it for what it is. The end game is me sitting under a tree somewhere with a picnic in the middle of nowhere with someone I have a genuine connection with and no technology at hand.

dTal 5y ago
Hah. Good luck finding a "genuine connection" without technology, in a world where technology mediates every interaction.

minikites 5y ago

>private corporation and government institutions are getting more controlling and totalitarian At least I have a voice in government. I don't get a voice when Experian (or Google, or any private company) decides to blacklist me arbitrarily.

dylan604 5y ago
How long before your creditworthiness determines your eligibility to vote? Don't laugh, or Texas will find a way to use it! (as a Texan ashamed of current moves against voting)

pbaka 5y ago

Something something Chinese social credit evil, something something fighting for "freedom" and "democracy".

frashelaw 5y ago

Something something Chinese social credit evil, something something fighting for "freedom" and "democracy".