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And also, while a groupset might indeed cost $1000, what sort of circumstances might require one to replace the entire groupset? (We're talking repairs rather

by aix1 5y ago

And also, while a groupset might indeed cost $1000, what sort of circumstances might require one to replace the entire groupset? (We're talking repairs rather than upgrades.)

snovv_crash 5y ago
Riding 50k km on dust/gravel roads, and the frame and wheels will still be good but chain and groupset will be significantly worn.
- aix1 5y ago
  Chain is indeed a wear item. It costs tens of dollars to replace. $1000 groupsets simply don't deteriorate in the manner you describe. Source: I rode many thousands of kilometers on my gravel/adventure bike, including a 1000km ride around Kenya (very dusty, rocky roads where there are roads). The only two groupset components I needed to replace on this 2016 bike so far were the derailleur hanger and a jockey wheel. The former got bent due to carelessness on my part and could have been straightened, but I chose to replace it for structural reasons. The bearing in the latter got a little sticky and so I replaced the jockey wheel. Each of the two parts cost the equivalent of US$15 here in the UK. I think this is a very long way from replacing the entire $1000 groupset, which was what the post I was replying to suggested.
  - snovv_crash 5y ago
    I believe the new 11s/12s with their higher chain angles tend to wear faster. They actually recommend changing it with the chain.
    - aix1 5y ago
      I think we're talking about different things. I am talking about the groupset (the shifters, brake levers, brake calipers, derailleurs, crankset, bottom bracket, chain and cassette). There are indeed some wear items (chain; cassette, especially if the chain isn't replaced when worn; brake pads; brake rotors) but, apart from those, a looked-after quality groupset can last decades.
Matthias247 5y ago
A chain for a high end group (like a XX1 Eagle) is 80$. A replacement cassette - that you will need after 2-3 chains is 300-500$. And if you are into mountainbiking - there is also a fair amount of chance you might break something like a derailleur and spend a few hundred to fix that.

by aix1 5y ago

And also, while a groupset might indeed cost $1000, what sort of circumstances might require one to replace the entire groupset? (We're talking repairs rather than upgrades.)

snovv_crash 5y ago

Riding 50k km on dust/gravel roads, and the frame and wheels will still be good but chain and groupset will be significantly worn.

aix1 5y ago
Chain is indeed a wear item. It costs tens of dollars to replace. $1000 groupsets simply don't deteriorate in the manner you describe. Source: I rode many thousands of kilometers on my gravel/adventure bike, including a 1000km ride around Kenya (very dusty, rocky roads where there are roads). The only two groupset components I needed to replace on this 2016 bike so far were the derailleur hanger and a jockey wheel. The former got bent due to carelessness on my part and could have been straightened, but I chose to replace it for structural reasons. The bearing in the latter got a little sticky and so I replaced the jockey wheel. Each of the two parts cost the equivalent of US$15 here in the UK. I think this is a very long way from replacing the entire $1000 groupset, which was what the post I was replying to suggested.
- snovv_crash 5y ago
  I believe the new 11s/12s with their higher chain angles tend to wear faster. They actually recommend changing it with the chain.
  - aix1 5y ago
    I think we're talking about different things. I am talking about the groupset (the shifters, brake levers, brake calipers, derailleurs, crankset, bottom bracket, chain and cassette). There are indeed some wear items (chain; cassette, especially if the chain isn't replaced when worn; brake pads; brake rotors) but, apart from those, a looked-after quality groupset can last decades.

Matthias247 5y ago

A chain for a high end group (like a XX1 Eagle) is 80$. A replacement cassette - that you will need after 2-3 chains is 300-500$. And if you are into mountainbiking - there is also a fair amount of chance you might break something like a derailleur and spend a few hundred to fix that.