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It's so strange when Canadian and European dignitaries fly to the US for important procedures when they've already solved healthcare [0]. [0] https://www.sfgat

It's so strange when Canadian and European dignitaries fly to the US for important procedures when they've already solved healthcare [0]. [0] https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/openforum/article/Why-Canadian-premier-seeks-health-care-in-U-S-3198150.php https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/openforum/article/Why-Canadia...

ChuckNorris89 5y ago
It's not strange at all, the US has the best healthcare system in the world ... that money can buy, so it's a huge benefit to the elites with f*ck you money who want the best care at any cost. Europe hasn't solved healthcare at all, there's plenty of issues ongoing and developing but the average joe need not worry of going broke due to medical bills so he can focus his life on other things.
he0001 5y ago
Why is that strange? Universal Health care doesn’t mean you don’t have options if you can pay or is that a sign of failure to you? Also the article mentions that 700k Canadians are waiting for health care (it doesn’t mention how long they have to wait). The US has 40M people not getting healthcare at all. I’d rather wait a bit than not getting it at all.
- lend000 5y ago
  The point is that no one has solved healthcare, contrary to the OP's point. It is certainly more equitable in places like Canada, but of a lower quality at the high end in virtually every country compared to the US, and it often takes months to see a specialist (but everyone gets a chance, if they don't have an urgent condition, that is). America's healthcare system is terrible, but socializing it like other countries have done isn't going to solve the problem (root causes include a massive shortage of doctors, a norm of bundling insurance with employment, lack of pricing transparency, partially socialized healthcare, as described in the article, and a system in which it costs a billion dollars to get a drug approved).
  - he0001 5y ago
    > Takes months to see a specialist? Even having an insurance can mean that it will take months to see a specialist. And universal healthcare doesn't have to mean that there shouldn’t be any private health care. The Nordic countries have solved it this way.

ChuckNorris89 5y ago

It's not strange at all, the US has the best healthcare system in the world ... that money can buy, so it's a huge benefit to the elites with f*ck you money who want the best care at any cost. Europe hasn't solved healthcare at all, there's plenty of issues ongoing and developing but the average joe need not worry of going broke due to medical bills so he can focus his life on other things.

he0001 5y ago

Why is that strange? Universal Health care doesn’t mean you don’t have options if you can pay or is that a sign of failure to you? Also the article mentions that 700k Canadians are waiting for health care (it doesn’t mention how long they have to wait). The US has 40M people not getting healthcare at all. I’d rather wait a bit than not getting it at all.

lend000 5y ago
The point is that no one has solved healthcare, contrary to the OP's point. It is certainly more equitable in places like Canada, but of a lower quality at the high end in virtually every country compared to the US, and it often takes months to see a specialist (but everyone gets a chance, if they don't have an urgent condition, that is). America's healthcare system is terrible, but socializing it like other countries have done isn't going to solve the problem (root causes include a massive shortage of doctors, a norm of bundling insurance with employment, lack of pricing transparency, partially socialized healthcare, as described in the article, and a system in which it costs a billion dollars to get a drug approved).
- he0001 5y ago
  > Takes months to see a specialist? Even having an insurance can mean that it will take months to see a specialist. And universal healthcare doesn't have to mean that there shouldn’t be any private health care. The Nordic countries have solved it this way.