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> What are you even going on about here? You think that encouraging healthy people to get vaccinated to help protect other people is stupid because most people

by baumy 5y ago

> What are you even going on about here? You think that encouraging healthy people to get vaccinated to help protect other people is stupid because most people are willing to accept the risk of driving? You position makes absolutely no sense to me. This is likely because you're projecting positions onto the person you're responding to that they never stated, and probably don't hold. If you read their comments again, you will discover they said they themselves are vaccinated, and offered no opinion about encouraging other people to get vaccinated as well. That was plainly not the topic of their comment. They are simply pointing out, correctly in my view, that life is not and never will be totally risk free, and at some point the risks that covid presents to the world at large will have to just be accepted, because the costs of lockdowns as countermeasures are simply too great. We can't continue to prioritize minimizing covid at the expense of all else forever. As a side note, the fact that you read someone expressing skepticism of some measures of covid containment, and instantly leapt to "they must think encouraging vaccines is stupid" does not reflect well on you, and is a pretty strong indicator that you're spending a lot of time in an ideological echo chamber that's eager to "other" and strawman anyone that disagrees with its positions. Something worth reflecting on, if you're willing.

shkkmo 5y ago
> This is likely because you're projecting positions onto the person you're responding to that they never state Ironically, that is precisely what I see you doing. You need to reread this full thread because your comment is entirely off base. The person I was discussing with was expressly arguing against encouraging people to be vacinated to help protect other people. This was justified by referencing how we accept (or in my case don't) the risks of cars in our society. There was no mention of my or anyone supporting indefinite lockdowns. > We can't continue to prioritize minimizing covid at the expense of all else forever. Of course not. I support encouraging vaccines and mandating masks precisely because we need to end lockdowns and still need to keep our hospitals running. That doesn't mean I will sit by while people make ridiculous arguments to against very good reasons for getting vacinated.
- baumy 5y ago
  No, you are wrong, and didn't read carefully. The comment of yours that I took issue with your response to the user "luckylion", who's only mention of the word "vaccine" was to mention that he himself is vaccinated. The rest of both of his comments that you attacked based on false premises are exclusively about risk tolerance, and the fact that we can't keep focusing on covid to the exclusion of all else forever. It's possible you aren't as ideologically bent as you're coming across and simply didn't notice you were talking to different people, but either way it's not acceptable behavior, hence why I called it out. I won't respond to the rest of your comment or any follow ups as I don't believe it would be productive.

by baumy 5y ago

shkkmo 5y ago

> This is likely because you're projecting positions onto the person you're responding to that they never state Ironically, that is precisely what I see you doing. You need to reread this full thread because your comment is entirely off base. The person I was discussing with was expressly arguing against encouraging people to be vacinated to help protect other people. This was justified by referencing how we accept (or in my case don't) the risks of cars in our society. There was no mention of my or anyone supporting indefinite lockdowns. > We can't continue to prioritize minimizing covid at the expense of all else forever. Of course not. I support encouraging vaccines and mandating masks precisely because we need to end lockdowns and still need to keep our hospitals running. That doesn't mean I will sit by while people make ridiculous arguments to against very good reasons for getting vacinated.

baumy 5y ago
No, you are wrong, and didn't read carefully. The comment of yours that I took issue with your response to the user "luckylion", who's only mention of the word "vaccine" was to mention that he himself is vaccinated. The rest of both of his comments that you attacked based on false premises are exclusively about risk tolerance, and the fact that we can't keep focusing on covid to the exclusion of all else forever. It's possible you aren't as ideologically bent as you're coming across and simply didn't notice you were talking to different people, but either way it's not acceptable behavior, hence why I called it out. I won't respond to the rest of your comment or any follow ups as I don't believe it would be productive.