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> Elon just announced that they're building a literal android that is supposed to take verbal directions and perform everyday tasks for you. If that's not AGI,

> Elon just announced that they're building a literal android that is supposed to take verbal directions and perform everyday tasks for you. If that's not AGI, I don't know what is. It's not AGI. An AGI is something that can think for itself, the way you can.

modeless 5y ago
Elon described this robot as taking directions like "go to the store and get me this list of groceries", implying that it would be able to, like, read the list, choose a store, drive a car there, use a cart, locate the groceries, go through checkout, etc. It's going to need to do a lot of thinking for itself to complete tasks like that. And more generally he described replacing human labor to the point that a universal basic income becomes necessary. AGI is definitely the ambition here.
- thechao 5y ago
  Nahhh... I'll paraphrase my old skool A(G)I advisor from my first year in grad school: you tell ML to get your groceries; AGI tells you to get the fucking groceries.
- eloff 5y ago
  Its not AGI. It's machine learning. It's unknown if it's possible to ever achieve AGI by using machine learning techniques.
  - eloff 5y ago
    Seriously, downvotes for a 100% factual statement?
- paragraft 5y ago
  I think what's more likely is we'd discover how many common, useful tasks you could perform with a humanoid robot that don't require AGI, with a more Alexa-like approach of iteratively adding support for explicit discrete tasks over time. We've already moved back the goalposts for AGI in so many other areas as we realise how many tasks can be decomposed to something quite mechanical in the right vector space etc.
  - modeless 5y ago
    If anything, the lesson of the entire history of robotics is the exact opposite. I'm surprised to see so many people believe that a robot doesn't need AGI to replace most human labor. Or maybe people just don't believe that Tesla's general purpose robot is a real project. Which is a view I'm partially sympathetic to.

modeless 5y ago

Elon described this robot as taking directions like "go to the store and get me this list of groceries", implying that it would be able to, like, read the list, choose a store, drive a car there, use a cart, locate the groceries, go through checkout, etc. It's going to need to do a lot of thinking for itself to complete tasks like that. And more generally he described replacing human labor to the point that a universal basic income becomes necessary. AGI is definitely the ambition here.

thechao 5y ago
Nahhh... I'll paraphrase my old skool A(G)I advisor from my first year in grad school: you tell ML to get your groceries; AGI tells you to get the fucking groceries.
eloff 5y ago
Its not AGI. It's machine learning. It's unknown if it's possible to ever achieve AGI by using machine learning techniques.
- eloff 5y ago
  Seriously, downvotes for a 100% factual statement?
paragraft 5y ago
I think what's more likely is we'd discover how many common, useful tasks you could perform with a humanoid robot that don't require AGI, with a more Alexa-like approach of iteratively adding support for explicit discrete tasks over time. We've already moved back the goalposts for AGI in so many other areas as we realise how many tasks can be decomposed to something quite mechanical in the right vector space etc.
- modeless 5y ago
  If anything, the lesson of the entire history of robotics is the exact opposite. I'm surprised to see so many people believe that a robot doesn't need AGI to replace most human labor. Or maybe people just don't believe that Tesla's general purpose robot is a real project. Which is a view I'm partially sympathetic to.