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This is why I love the gemini space. It feels ... unadulterated somehow.

smoldesu 5y ago
Gemini is awesome, but it's lack of ambition is what really kills it for me. I appreciate their minimalist take on the web, but if their implementation is less robust than what we currently have, I have very little incentive to host a site there.
droidist2 5y ago
Are you talking about this? https://gemini.circumlunar.space https://gemini.circumlunar.space
- tpoacher 5y ago
  yes. My favourite gemini browser is Lagrange. Makes a nice experience even better.
pmlnr 5y ago
Gemini is a dead end. If it was backwards compatible with gopher, with added TLS I might even consider it a good idea, but this is just plain text with links. The true power of web used to be self expression. This is why geoticies was a big thing, why myspace worked, and why Flash defined an era. It's not a great idea to reduce options for creativity; instead, we should encourage it again.
- tpoacher 5y ago
  > but this is just plain text with links. I think this unnecessarily reductive. I disagree for two reasons. 1. Technical. The restrictions are on the protocol side. Not the browser side. It's up to the browser to convert links to "more than" links. The Lagrange gemini browser is a good example of that. E.g. if it detects a link to an image, it adds that image inline. 2. Behavioural. Protocol restrictions do not immediately equate to inability to be creative. In my short stint in geminispace I've already witnessed some wonderfully creative content, ranging from writing, poetry, ascii art, a tictactoe/chess server, and even interactive fiction games.
- anthk 5y ago
  No is not. It's just Gopher rethinked for display-independent devices. Most Gopher users are aware of Gemini and viceversa, so often provide both services. Also, Gemini provides options to set ascii-art as -optional- making Gemini one of the best hypertext services for the blind ever.

Gemini is awesome, but it's lack of ambition is what really kills it for me. I appreciate their minimalist take on the web, but if their implementation is less robust than what we currently have, I have very little incentive to host a site there.

droidist2 5y ago

Are you talking about this? https://gemini.circumlunar.space https://gemini.circumlunar.space

tpoacher 5y ago
yes. My favourite gemini browser is Lagrange. Makes a nice experience even better.

pmlnr 5y ago

Gemini is a dead end. If it was backwards compatible with gopher, with added TLS I might even consider it a good idea, but this is just plain text with links. The true power of web used to be self expression. This is why geoticies was a big thing, why myspace worked, and why Flash defined an era. It's not a great idea to reduce options for creativity; instead, we should encourage it again.

tpoacher 5y ago
> but this is just plain text with links. I think this unnecessarily reductive. I disagree for two reasons. 1. Technical. The restrictions are on the protocol side. Not the browser side. It's up to the browser to convert links to "more than" links. The Lagrange gemini browser is a good example of that. E.g. if it detects a link to an image, it adds that image inline. 2. Behavioural. Protocol restrictions do not immediately equate to inability to be creative. In my short stint in geminispace I've already witnessed some wonderfully creative content, ranging from writing, poetry, ascii art, a tictactoe/chess server, and even interactive fiction games.
anthk 5y ago
No is not. It's just Gopher rethinked for display-independent devices. Most Gopher users are aware of Gemini and viceversa, so often provide both services. Also, Gemini provides options to set ascii-art as -optional- making Gemini one of the best hypertext services for the blind ever.