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> My kids are constantly looking at my face to for “is this okay” signals Nobody's expecting you to wear masks at home.

by rcpt 5y ago

spookthesunset 5y ago
Whats your point, that doesn't invalidate the argument at all.
- rcpt 5y ago
  Your argument is that kids *might* have trouble developing social cues because facial expressions are hidden behind masks. But, even with masks on at school, your kids have plenty of unmasked time at home. This is one reason why, after 18 months of masking, there is still no data supporting your argument.
  - spookthesunset 5y ago
    Where is your data that they don’t have long term developmental effects from wearing masks and missing facial cues? Eh? It isn’t my job to prove anything. Y’all want to force my daughter to wear a mask to attend a public school you better have a hell of a lot of evidence and data to back it up. You need to address each and every criticism and support it with solid research conducted over years of time. None of that exists and all criticism no matter how valid is met with gaslighting, being called a right wing fool, and name calling. Which says to me there is no solid justification for kids wearing masks besides partisan politics and tribalism. Y’all are signing my kid up to be your unconsenting laboratory experiment, which is highly unethical and straight up immoral. I’m not the one pushing kids to forcefully wear masks. You are. It’s disgusting and one of the worst things we’ve done. Almost no European country masks their kids. A handful of blue states are basically alone in forcing kids to wear masks at school. Which really underscores what is really going on, and it ain’t “science”.
    - ABCLAW 5y ago
      >Where is your data that they don’t have long term developmental effects from wearing masks and missing facial cues? Eh? Asking someone to prove a negative when they indicate there is no positive evidence pointing towards the assertion you're making isn't a 'checkmate' retort. Negatives are much harder to prove than positives. You aren't being gaslit. Maybe take a step back and calm down. Saying things like: >I’m not the one pushing kids to forcefully wear masks. You are. It’s disgusting and one of the worst things we’ve done. Is probably too emotionally charged to result in a good dialog, if that's what you're looking for.
      - spookthesunset 5y ago
        Damn right I’m emotional. Y’all are gaslighting me and trying to bully my daughter into wearing a mask at school. I love my daughters smile. She should show it and not hide it behind a mask. You better have proof it doesn’t fuck her up. It’s so morally disgusting I’d rather not say exactly what I think of people who gleefully want to force kids to wear a mask and write it off as “no big deal” or “my kid doesn’t have a problem”. Suffice so say let’s go with “monster”. The entire burden of proof is on you people trying to make this massive deviation from normal. Not me. You have to support your arguments with more than telling me I’m emotional or blowing it out of proportion. Because I have a right to be massively emotional and pissed off. I am fully within my rights to defend my daughter from what I perceive as a great harm. And y’all have no right to tell me how to feel. Seriously. It’s abuse. You mask people are super abusive. Giant bullies using your loud voices, mockery and name calling to drown out anybody with valid criticisms. So to the “force kids to wear masks” people here, put up or shut up. Show me proof it won’t fuck my daughter up and show me proof it is actually going to benefit her. And if you can’t provide that proof than go bugger off, I’ll yell at you, the administration and my dumbass governor and his unelected health “experts”. My daughter is more important than any of y’all’s unfounded mandates. Because near as I can tell there is absolutely no benefit for the actual child wearing a mask. It’s all for giving the appearance of protecting adults, who have a choice to be fully vaccinated. Which is so immoral and so wrong, again, I’ll refrain from stating exactly what I think of the people pushing for it.

> My kids are constantly looking at my face to for “is this okay” signals Nobody's expecting you to wear masks at home.

by rcpt 5y ago

> My kids are constantly looking at my face to for “is this okay” signals Nobody's expecting you to wear masks at home.

spookthesunset 5y ago

Whats your point, that doesn't invalidate the argument at all.

rcpt 5y ago
Your argument is that kids *might* have trouble developing social cues because facial expressions are hidden behind masks. But, even with masks on at school, your kids have plenty of unmasked time at home. This is one reason why, after 18 months of masking, there is still no data supporting your argument.
- spookthesunset 5y ago
  Where is your data that they don’t have long term developmental effects from wearing masks and missing facial cues? Eh? It isn’t my job to prove anything. Y’all want to force my daughter to wear a mask to attend a public school you better have a hell of a lot of evidence and data to back it up. You need to address each and every criticism and support it with solid research conducted over years of time. None of that exists and all criticism no matter how valid is met with gaslighting, being called a right wing fool, and name calling. Which says to me there is no solid justification for kids wearing masks besides partisan politics and tribalism. Y’all are signing my kid up to be your unconsenting laboratory experiment, which is highly unethical and straight up immoral. I’m not the one pushing kids to forcefully wear masks. You are. It’s disgusting and one of the worst things we’ve done. Almost no European country masks their kids. A handful of blue states are basically alone in forcing kids to wear masks at school. Which really underscores what is really going on, and it ain’t “science”.
  - ABCLAW 5y ago
    >Where is your data that they don’t have long term developmental effects from wearing masks and missing facial cues? Eh? Asking someone to prove a negative when they indicate there is no positive evidence pointing towards the assertion you're making isn't a 'checkmate' retort. Negatives are much harder to prove than positives. You aren't being gaslit. Maybe take a step back and calm down. Saying things like: >I’m not the one pushing kids to forcefully wear masks. You are. It’s disgusting and one of the worst things we’ve done. Is probably too emotionally charged to result in a good dialog, if that's what you're looking for.
    - spookthesunset 5y ago
      Damn right I’m emotional. Y’all are gaslighting me and trying to bully my daughter into wearing a mask at school. I love my daughters smile. She should show it and not hide it behind a mask. You better have proof it doesn’t fuck her up. It’s so morally disgusting I’d rather not say exactly what I think of people who gleefully want to force kids to wear a mask and write it off as “no big deal” or “my kid doesn’t have a problem”. Suffice so say let’s go with “monster”. The entire burden of proof is on you people trying to make this massive deviation from normal. Not me. You have to support your arguments with more than telling me I’m emotional or blowing it out of proportion. Because I have a right to be massively emotional and pissed off. I am fully within my rights to defend my daughter from what I perceive as a great harm. And y’all have no right to tell me how to feel. Seriously. It’s abuse. You mask people are super abusive. Giant bullies using your loud voices, mockery and name calling to drown out anybody with valid criticisms. So to the “force kids to wear masks” people here, put up or shut up. Show me proof it won’t fuck my daughter up and show me proof it is actually going to benefit her. And if you can’t provide that proof than go bugger off, I’ll yell at you, the administration and my dumbass governor and his unelected health “experts”. My daughter is more important than any of y’all’s unfounded mandates. Because near as I can tell there is absolutely no benefit for the actual child wearing a mask. It’s all for giving the appearance of protecting adults, who have a choice to be fully vaccinated. Which is so immoral and so wrong, again, I’ll refrain from stating exactly what I think of the people pushing for it.