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> They're called "new" developers. Not necessarily. There's still plenty of experienced developers with multiple years of experience that only know a very limi
by ratww 5y ago
> They're called "new" developers.
Not necessarily. There's still plenty of experienced developers with multiple years of experience that only know a very limited set of technologies. And for years before Bootstrap, inexperienced developers often knew CSS and a bit of JS. And there is nothing wrong with those developers.
My post is not a judgement on beginner developers, I think you're projecting this. It's rather a lamentation of how a certain technology ended up affecting both design and learning negatively.
Also, I find it extremely wasteful and un-pragmatic to rewrite a well designed website from scratch for no benefit other than to the devs themselves. It was a loss for not only the students and teachers of the university, but also for those developers.
> Luckily, "new" developers become "experienced" over time.
Not really if they actively avoid learning.
- ramraj07 5y agoNegative is subjective. This is like someone shitting on the model T and Ford because now bugattis and Rolls royces aren’t being found in streets commonly. Bootstrap democratized accessible design. It might be vanilla and bland but no one had trouble navigating a bootstrap site so “negative” is a subjective judgement here.
- ratww 5y agoNobody is shitting on anything. This is a very uncharitable reading of my comment. Just because Bootstrap had some very good aspects, doesn't mean it also didn't have some negative ones. I find this idolatry of tools a very troubling aspect of our industry. It should be possible to reflect on the negative aspect of good tools without someone saying you're "shitting" on it. Also notice that I never complained about Bootstrap being vanilla or bland. The issue here was that something well designed and well tested was rewritten from scratch and replaced with something that ended up being inferior for no reason other than misguided developers. And "no one had trouble navigating a bootstrap site" is a bold claim, considering how flexible it was. In fact the main issue with the website I mentioned was the worsened navigation introduced by the developers.