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>Everyone can make their own decisions, but can everyone give an introductory lecture? Perhaps the 250 attendees can decide if they want to be there in person o

>Everyone can make their own decisions, but can everyone give an introductory lecture? Perhaps the 250 attendees can decide if they want to be there in person or remotely, why would you remove that choice from the person giving the lecture? How am I removing that choice? Did I say anywhere they were not allowed to host it virtually if they chose to do so? The only one removing choices is the individual that decides they don't want anyone in person. >Sounds like you are equating your experience with everyone. Not everyone has access to the vaccine, not everyone is able to work remotely, some people have to interact with the public as part of their job. Perhaps try looking at things from the perspective of people who are less fortunate than yourself. Every reason you listed here only supports NOT locking down. Everyone in the US does have access to the vaccine. I am looking at it correctly, you're the one that wants people not to work by locking down everything. What's your solution? Wait until everyone gets it, which will never happen? The irony in calling me the selfish one. I'm not making anyone do anything here. Exactly how is telling everyone they must do something not selfish? Anyone supporting more lockdowns/masking at this point is only doing it for themselves and no one else.

celticninja 5y ago
I have not proposed a lockdown in any of my comments. I think you are looking for an argument with someone who wants another lockdown. I have not seen anyone proposing a new lockdown and think that the majority of people in the UK would neither support another lockdown or even think it is necessary. Literally the only country that should be considering a lockdown at this stage is New Zealand due to them being a great way to prevent spread if there are very few cases in the general population and the majority of people are unvaccinated. For everyone else the only realistic solution.is vaccination for as much of the population as possible.
- CountDrewku 5y ago
  >The only place still with national lockdowns are NZ and Australia because they were able to contain and control the virus earlier on. You literally supported lockdown measure with this comment. I'm not sure why you're backtracking now. You might wanna backtrack on the whole AUS NZ thing since they've essentially become authoritarian police states over the COVID cases everyone told them they would get hit with. Turns out it had nothing to do with their measures and everything to do with the fact they're giant islands that can stop anyone coming into their country.
  - celticninja 5y ago
    Oh I supported lockdown measures when they were first introduced. Because I am not an idiot. But now that we have vaccinations available they are a better option when the virus is so widespread. The UK is also an island and we could have cut ourselves off from travel and kept the virus out bit an incompetent government meant that never happened. So the best solution now is vaccination for as much of the population as possible. Australia has gone a bit nuts but it's hardly a police state and NZ has fared very well and is very definitely not an authoritarian police state. Of everywhere NZ has had the best handling of the situation. Of course it had everything to do with their measures, stopping international travel was one of those measures, lockdowns were another.

celticninja 5y ago

I have not proposed a lockdown in any of my comments. I think you are looking for an argument with someone who wants another lockdown. I have not seen anyone proposing a new lockdown and think that the majority of people in the UK would neither support another lockdown or even think it is necessary. Literally the only country that should be considering a lockdown at this stage is New Zealand due to them being a great way to prevent spread if there are very few cases in the general population and the majority of people are unvaccinated. For everyone else the only realistic solution.is vaccination for as much of the population as possible.

CountDrewku 5y ago
>The only place still with national lockdowns are NZ and Australia because they were able to contain and control the virus earlier on. You literally supported lockdown measure with this comment. I'm not sure why you're backtracking now. You might wanna backtrack on the whole AUS NZ thing since they've essentially become authoritarian police states over the COVID cases everyone told them they would get hit with. Turns out it had nothing to do with their measures and everything to do with the fact they're giant islands that can stop anyone coming into their country.
- celticninja 5y ago
  Oh I supported lockdown measures when they were first introduced. Because I am not an idiot. But now that we have vaccinations available they are a better option when the virus is so widespread. The UK is also an island and we could have cut ourselves off from travel and kept the virus out bit an incompetent government meant that never happened. So the best solution now is vaccination for as much of the population as possible. Australia has gone a bit nuts but it's hardly a police state and NZ has fared very well and is very definitely not an authoritarian police state. Of everywhere NZ has had the best handling of the situation. Of course it had everything to do with their measures, stopping international travel was one of those measures, lockdowns were another.