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> Presumably, a trivial software update down the line could expand its ambit to locally stored files. And backing up one level, this is why I’m finally working

> Presumably, a trivial software update down the line could expand its ambit to locally stored files. And backing up one level, this is why I’m finally working hard to take control of my devices and data from companies like Apple. This most recent episode shows that “a trivial software update” such as the one in iOS 14.3 can introduce this on-device scanning where non existed before. We knew it was possible of course, but now we have a clear cut example of it. They’ve lost my trust and that’s that.

MrWiffles 5y ago
> [...] They’ve lost my trust [...] Exactly how I feel. I used to cautiously kinda trust Apple's so-called "commitment" to privacy, but this change just shows us that any such promises are purely theater. Now that the damage is done, I doubt it can be undone, especially in my case. My opinion on Apple's credibility has crashed through the floor. In my opinion, they're now as untrustworthy as Google or Facebook.
- istingray 5y ago
  For me it's a step further. I cannot trust any company for more than privacy theater. Apple was simply the last to fall. I'm starting to look at companies to see if they meet these must-haves: 1. E2E encryption 2. Open source hardware and software Everything else is "nice to have". The current options out there are missing a lot of "nice to haves", but they will get better. I'll be a vocal customer telling them what I want.
mbjdesign 5y ago
“Trust” is entirely my issue with Apple too. I spent some time - and even wrote a post on my site - trying to clarify my thoughts and the steady erosion of trust seemed to be what I most object to. I too am trying to take control and responsibility for the computers I use now. Proving tricky, but baby steps…
- istingray 5y ago
  Care to share the link to the post on your site?
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    Not that person but is this it? https://madebyjamie.design/articles/2021-08-20-advocating-for-open-source/ https://madebyjamie.design/articles/2021-08-20-advocating-fo...
- smoldesu 5y ago
  Just read through your blog post, there's plenty of great insights on there and I appreciated someone being so thoughtful and tactful with their response. As a Rust developer, I fully encourage you to push through and learn the language: I've walked a few tenured web devs through the language, and they're always surprised by how strongly typed and simple everything is once you understand the syntax. Truly one of my favorite languages to work with! As for 'alternatives' like you listed towards the bottom, I fully recommend setting up your own Nextcloud instance. It's a really versatile little thing, capable of hosting your photos/documents/music/whatever from a decent online interface (or WebDav, if you're a nerd.)
istingray 5y ago
"They’ve lost my trust and that’s that." Same here. There's a finality to this, closure. I'm done reading about it, nothing more I need to say about Apple. I just purchased a System76 laptop and am ditching my MBP. I've been a Mac Addict for 20 years and now I've outgrown Apple. Privacy is a human right. What I'm wondering now is "how do I replace my iPhone, AirPods, and iPad?" Ask HN: Do you use Purism, PinePhone, or Fairphone? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28216287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28216287 Ask HN: Do you use a Linux-first laptop? (System76, Librem, Dell XPS Dev Ed) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28216287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28216287
- aeronaute 5y ago
  Me too. Not a huge Mac user, but I use my iPad and AirPods a lot. I haven't tried them, though the Sony ear buds look like a great option to AirPods: https://www.sony.com/lr/electronics/truly-wireless/wf-1000xm4 https://www.sony.com/lr/electronics/truly-wireless/wf-1000xm... As far as the tablet goes... I dunno. I haven't tried an android tablet and I'm not too keen on it. Maybe a Surface? The iPad is damn good at what it does...
  - istingray 5y ago
    The biggest convenient of AirPods for me is how damn easy they connect and disconnect. Wonder if there's a way to support that on other devices and platforms. It's a dream. And yeah, iPad... Pinephone has options: https://pine64.com/product-category/tablets/ https://pine64.com/product-category/tablets/

MrWiffles 5y ago

> [...] They’ve lost my trust [...] Exactly how I feel. I used to cautiously kinda trust Apple's so-called "commitment" to privacy, but this change just shows us that any such promises are purely theater. Now that the damage is done, I doubt it can be undone, especially in my case. My opinion on Apple's credibility has crashed through the floor. In my opinion, they're now as untrustworthy as Google or Facebook.

istingray 5y ago
For me it's a step further. I cannot trust any company for more than privacy theater. Apple was simply the last to fall. I'm starting to look at companies to see if they meet these must-haves: 1. E2E encryption 2. Open source hardware and software Everything else is "nice to have". The current options out there are missing a lot of "nice to haves", but they will get better. I'll be a vocal customer telling them what I want.

mbjdesign 5y ago

“Trust” is entirely my issue with Apple too. I spent some time - and even wrote a post on my site - trying to clarify my thoughts and the steady erosion of trust seemed to be what I most object to. I too am trying to take control and responsibility for the computers I use now. Proving tricky, but baby steps…

istingray 5y ago
Care to share the link to the post on your site?
- smoldesu 5y ago
  Not that person but is this it? https://madebyjamie.design/articles/2021-08-20-advocating-for-open-source/ https://madebyjamie.design/articles/2021-08-20-advocating-fo...
smoldesu 5y ago
Just read through your blog post, there's plenty of great insights on there and I appreciated someone being so thoughtful and tactful with their response. As a Rust developer, I fully encourage you to push through and learn the language: I've walked a few tenured web devs through the language, and they're always surprised by how strongly typed and simple everything is once you understand the syntax. Truly one of my favorite languages to work with! As for 'alternatives' like you listed towards the bottom, I fully recommend setting up your own Nextcloud instance. It's a really versatile little thing, capable of hosting your photos/documents/music/whatever from a decent online interface (or WebDav, if you're a nerd.)

istingray 5y ago

"They’ve lost my trust and that’s that." Same here. There's a finality to this, closure. I'm done reading about it, nothing more I need to say about Apple. I just purchased a System76 laptop and am ditching my MBP. I've been a Mac Addict for 20 years and now I've outgrown Apple. Privacy is a human right. What I'm wondering now is "how do I replace my iPhone, AirPods, and iPad?" Ask HN: Do you use Purism, PinePhone, or Fairphone? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28216287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28216287 Ask HN: Do you use a Linux-first laptop? (System76, Librem, Dell XPS Dev Ed) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28216287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28216287

aeronaute 5y ago
Me too. Not a huge Mac user, but I use my iPad and AirPods a lot. I haven't tried them, though the Sony ear buds look like a great option to AirPods: https://www.sony.com/lr/electronics/truly-wireless/wf-1000xm4 https://www.sony.com/lr/electronics/truly-wireless/wf-1000xm... As far as the tablet goes... I dunno. I haven't tried an android tablet and I'm not too keen on it. Maybe a Surface? The iPad is damn good at what it does...
- istingray 5y ago
  The biggest convenient of AirPods for me is how damn easy they connect and disconnect. Wonder if there's a way to support that on other devices and platforms. It's a dream. And yeah, iPad... Pinephone has options: https://pine64.com/product-category/tablets/ https://pine64.com/product-category/tablets/