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I think the main non-conspiracy reasons fall into these categories: - Fear, hesitancy about potential long term risks. - Resistance to government mandating a

by abnry 5y ago

I think the main non-conspiracy reasons fall into these categories: - Fear, hesitancy about potential long term risks. - Resistance to government mandating a vaccine (freedom, low trust in government, other options not being considered) - Resistance to the cultural paradigm of "un-vaccinated = bad/deplorable person" - Belief that the risk of COVID is already low (at least for them)

all2 5y ago
I'll add to this the absolutely weird monologue that is typically used when trying to convince people to get the vaccine: they pay money, they give away free things, they recite rappers (?!). But its good for you. Followed by demonizing anyone who chooses not to get it. It is literally a carrot/stick routine. Do what I want? Get a carrot. Don't do what I want? I'll beat you with the stick of public shaming. This site is the only public forum I've seen reasoned debate on. Everywhere else and debate/dissent are actively shut down. Any information that conflicts with the seeming narrative is made to disappear. For example, major hospital/health orgs that have stated in the past that masks don't slow viral spread have removed that data in the complete absence of randomized, controlled trials showing that masks actually work. In fact, meta studies have routinely shown that masks don't work to prevent viral spread [0]. [0]https://www.city-journal.org/do-masks-work-a-review-of-the-evidence?wallit_nosession=1 https://www.city-journal.org/do-masks-work-a-review-of-the-e...
- the_doctah 5y ago
  Reddit already has site-wide moderation enforcing removal of anything deemed "Covid misinformation" or really, in my experience, anything that could be considered anti-vaxx. I posted in an /r/NFL thread saying that asking every single QB if they are vaccinated, and then frothing at the mouth when they decline to answer, is mostly nothing but a witch hunt. I received a permanent ban with the message from the mod "anti-vaxx moron". I'm not anti-vaxx, and I'm not a moron, but this is generally concerning behavior about the state of discussion surrounding Covid and the censorship taking place online. You aren't allowed to have an opinion that isn't "Vaxx up and mask up and harass anyone who doesn't".
- genewitch 5y ago
  Merriam-Webster changed the definition of the word "vaccine" on or before January 18th of 2021. You can verify that they and a few other websites changed the definition by checking archive.org I'm not sure I'd feel more comfortable with the mRNA stuff being called something different, though. I'm low risk, I wear a.mask everywhere, always, I rarely leave the house, my "city" has less than 500 people in it, and I have disinfectant and UV lights for deliveries. I go out in the very early morning or very late night, once a month to go shopping. I "work from home". My wife cannot be vaccinated at this time, either. Just a couple more data points.

by abnry 5y ago

all2 5y ago

I'll add to this the absolutely weird monologue that is typically used when trying to convince people to get the vaccine: they pay money, they give away free things, they recite rappers (?!). But its good for you. Followed by demonizing anyone who chooses not to get it. It is literally a carrot/stick routine. Do what I want? Get a carrot. Don't do what I want? I'll beat you with the stick of public shaming. This site is the only public forum I've seen reasoned debate on. Everywhere else and debate/dissent are actively shut down. Any information that conflicts with the seeming narrative is made to disappear. For example, major hospital/health orgs that have stated in the past that masks don't slow viral spread have removed that data in the complete absence of randomized, controlled trials showing that masks actually work. In fact, meta studies have routinely shown that masks don't work to prevent viral spread [0]. [0]https://www.city-journal.org/do-masks-work-a-review-of-the-evidence?wallit_nosession=1 https://www.city-journal.org/do-masks-work-a-review-of-the-e...

the_doctah 5y ago
Reddit already has site-wide moderation enforcing removal of anything deemed "Covid misinformation" or really, in my experience, anything that could be considered anti-vaxx. I posted in an /r/NFL thread saying that asking every single QB if they are vaccinated, and then frothing at the mouth when they decline to answer, is mostly nothing but a witch hunt. I received a permanent ban with the message from the mod "anti-vaxx moron". I'm not anti-vaxx, and I'm not a moron, but this is generally concerning behavior about the state of discussion surrounding Covid and the censorship taking place online. You aren't allowed to have an opinion that isn't "Vaxx up and mask up and harass anyone who doesn't".
genewitch 5y ago
Merriam-Webster changed the definition of the word "vaccine" on or before January 18th of 2021. You can verify that they and a few other websites changed the definition by checking archive.org I'm not sure I'd feel more comfortable with the mRNA stuff being called something different, though. I'm low risk, I wear a.mask everywhere, always, I rarely leave the house, my "city" has less than 500 people in it, and I have disinfectant and UV lights for deliveries. I go out in the very early morning or very late night, once a month to go shopping. I "work from home". My wife cannot be vaccinated at this time, either. Just a couple more data points.