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The required changes to liberty are substantially different. Giving up your hobbies means making a major change to your life. Getting two shots takes a cumulati

by yojo 5y ago

The required changes to liberty are substantially different. Giving up your hobbies means making a major change to your life. Getting two shots takes a cumulative 2ish hours. Do you claim you receive substantial benefits from not getting a shot? Because I claim society gets substantial benefits from you getting vaccinated. You’re trying to make this a binary thing, but we live in a society where collectively we try to make small trades in liberty for collective benefit. I do expect you not to drive 60MPH in front of my house where my children play. I do not expect you to give up tennis.

mlang23 5y ago
Yes, my "substiantial benefit" is not exposing my system to an artificially created addiction/dependency on fabricated meds. What you seem to ignore is the long term effect of going down that path as a society. If the death rate in my age group were higher, believe me, I would take a shot. But since I am statistically not really at risk, I prefer to not make myself dependent on vaccination to survive.
- yojo 5y ago
  I’m not aware of any evidence that vaccinations of any kind cause addiction. Please provide citations.
  - mlang23 5y ago
    Almost all vaccine producers claim effectivity for about 9 months, right? So after 9 months, you need to get another shot. Since you have decided your immune system can not handle COVID on its own, you have now a dependency on the vaccine. Thats what I call an addiction. Better english word is probably a dependency...
mlang23 5y ago
Frankly, if you insist I get a biannual shot for your reasons, I insist that you give up tennis because I dont see why I should pay a single penny for your spare time activities. I am willing to retract my retarded claim if you do the same.
- yojo 5y ago
  You agree that as society you make some concessions for the greater good? I assume you (roughly) coming with speed limits, yes? And driving slower almost certainly takes more of your time every year than getting a shot. Both measures save other people’s lives. I don’t think you have a leg to stand on here.

by yojo 5y ago

mlang23 5y ago

Yes, my "substiantial benefit" is not exposing my system to an artificially created addiction/dependency on fabricated meds. What you seem to ignore is the long term effect of going down that path as a society. If the death rate in my age group were higher, believe me, I would take a shot. But since I am statistically not really at risk, I prefer to not make myself dependent on vaccination to survive.

yojo 5y ago
I’m not aware of any evidence that vaccinations of any kind cause addiction. Please provide citations.
- mlang23 5y ago
  Almost all vaccine producers claim effectivity for about 9 months, right? So after 9 months, you need to get another shot. Since you have decided your immune system can not handle COVID on its own, you have now a dependency on the vaccine. Thats what I call an addiction. Better english word is probably a dependency...

mlang23 5y ago

Frankly, if you insist I get a biannual shot for your reasons, I insist that you give up tennis because I dont see why I should pay a single penny for your spare time activities. I am willing to retract my retarded claim if you do the same.

yojo 5y ago
You agree that as society you make some concessions for the greater good? I assume you (roughly) coming with speed limits, yes? And driving slower almost certainly takes more of your time every year than getting a shot. Both measures save other people’s lives. I don’t think you have a leg to stand on here.