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For me it's the fact that I'm making the decision based on emotional factors. I don't trust big pharma and I don't trust the vaccines. Should be reason enough.

For me it's the fact that I'm making the decision based on emotional factors. I don't trust big pharma and I don't trust the vaccines. Should be reason enough. There is plenty of things we don't trust in life, so we don't use those things.

nyokodo 5y ago
> I don't trust big pharma and I don't trust the vaccines. Should be reason enough. This is a good example of what I was talking about. You don’t trust big pharma? Most people who say that will still pop some ibuprofen etc when they get a headache so really they do trust big pharma when it suits them. The real reason is deeper down.
- christophilus 5y ago
  Not really. Ibuprofen has been in use for a very long time, has well known and studied side-effects, and is readily available over the counter in generic form. There is no big lobby interest for Ibuprofin at this time, so the financial incentives there are not suspect. On the other hand, any time I see a pharmaceutical ad for some new wonder drug, my incientive-caused-bias hackles are immediately raised.
  - nyokodo 5y ago
    > There is no big lobby interest for Ibuprofin at this time, so the financial incentives there are not suspect. Clearly Ibuprofen is a product of big pharma, therefore if it were merely distrust of big pharma then using it and all other ordinary drugs like it would be out of the question. Additionally, there are big lobby interests for products and services we all use all the time. Why make exceptions for them? Not trusting big pharma is post-facto rationalization as reasonable caution evaporated sometime before the first 500 million people got vaccinated. No, there are simpler underlying reasons like being disproportionately afraid of the vaccine vs the virus or not feeling any risk and not caring about the risk of others etc.

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For me it's the fact that I'm making the decision based on emotional factors. I don't trust big pharma and I don't trust the vaccines. Should be reason enough.

by peakaboo 5y ago

nyokodo 5y ago
> I don't trust big pharma and I don't trust the vaccines. Should be reason enough. This is a good example of what I was talking about. You don’t trust big pharma? Most people who say that will still pop some ibuprofen etc when they get a headache so really they do trust big pharma when it suits them. The real reason is deeper down.
- christophilus 5y ago
  Not really. Ibuprofen has been in use for a very long time, has well known and studied side-effects, and is readily available over the counter in generic form. There is no big lobby interest for Ibuprofin at this time, so the financial incentives there are not suspect. On the other hand, any time I see a pharmaceutical ad for some new wonder drug, my incientive-caused-bias hackles are immediately raised.
  - nyokodo 5y ago
    > There is no big lobby interest for Ibuprofin at this time, so the financial incentives there are not suspect. Clearly Ibuprofen is a product of big pharma, therefore if it were merely distrust of big pharma then using it and all other ordinary drugs like it would be out of the question. Additionally, there are big lobby interests for products and services we all use all the time. Why make exceptions for them? Not trusting big pharma is post-facto rationalization as reasonable caution evaporated sometime before the first 500 million people got vaccinated. No, there are simpler underlying reasons like being disproportionately afraid of the vaccine vs the virus or not feeling any risk and not caring about the risk of others etc.