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But drug overdose rates seem to have increased, so the fact that suicide rates are flat doesn't tell us much. Suicide is relative very rare. Even antidepresant
by NoPie 5y ago
But drug overdose rates seem to have increased, so the fact that suicide rates are flat doesn't tell us much.
Suicide is relative very rare. Even antidepresant drug trials find it very difficult to establish if they increase suicidality because of rarity. There are some antidepresants that are thought to increase suicides in children and still can be prescribed because of some improvement in the quality of life.
Lockdowns however where mostly bad except in some cases. I think that some young people who spend a lot of time playing games were happy. Incidentally they are also the ones who are most active online.
- eesmith 5y agoIt invalidates the assertion that that suicides are a consequence of lockdown.
- NoPie 5y agoNot yet. It could be that pandemics actually decrease suicides as some people who would have killed themselves, die from the disease. Or by the effect that pandemics cause more empathy between people that reduce suicide rates. But by introducing lockdowns this gain is erased. But even if it has no effect, the harm of lockdowns can be in other ways. The drug overdose deaths and increased alcoholism for example seems to be true. Any suicides can still follow after several years.
- eesmith 5y agovixen99 wrote: "With lockdowns, consequent suicides ... are ignored" There is no evidence that there are consequent suicides. Nor that they are ignored. You write "not yet" .... a hand-wavy statement which instantly adds FUD any topic. It could be that lockdowns cause people to suddenly die 3 years years later. I could make up lots of "it could be" scenarios. Unsupported claims, with evidence contrary to the claim, should not be used to make policy decisions. And this is a hypothetical about making a policy decision.
- NoPie 5y agoI know that he wrote but despite this part not proven the main point still stands – we haven't really any cost-benefit calculations at all. Nor estimates that lockdowns are effective.