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Because in places where lots of people think like you, the ICUs are overflowing? I also think you underestimate how ANGRY people are that they spent 18 months

by seoaeu 5y ago

Because in places where lots of people think like you, the ICUs are overflowing? I also think you underestimate how ANGRY people are that they spent 18 months in lockdown, only to have some anti-vaxers mess things up at the end. By this point, we shouldn't be talking about which areas do/don't have overflowing ICUs, we should be talking about which areas have hit milestones for number of days without a positive case!

menduza23 5y ago
What makes those angry people who have been in lockdown for so long think that taking the vaccine will allow us go back to normal? See these articles: https://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-14-israelis-who-got-3rd-shot-later-infected-with-covid-19/amp/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-14-israelis-who-got-3rd-sho... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-21/science-can-t-keep-up-with-virus-creating-worry-for-vaccinated https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-21/science-c...
- seoaeu 5y ago
  > "Limited data not enough to draw conclusions" Media fearmongering about Delta doesn't change anything. The reality is that places which have very high vaccination rates have been able to return much more to normal. And all evidence points to the more people get vaccinated, the sooner things will return entirely to normal
  - menduza23 5y ago
    Keen to see some proof of that?
menduza23 5y ago
People say "trust the science". But I've seen no proof that this vaccine works. In fact no you need a third shot to combat the delta variant yet I've seen no proof that people who've had the third shot can't get the delta variant. Its sad to think people believe the lies the government and media is telling them. Saying "take the vaccine then we can all go back to normal" is like saying "the lockdown will only be two weeks long". The goal posts keep shifting. The government will never stop taking away your freedom and spreading lies to push this agenda.
cies 5y ago
To my best knowledge anti-vaxxer did not mess things up, govt+pharma promissed did. They start with: just a few weak to ease the curve, never a vax passport, vaccines create herd immunity and we can kick covids ass. Now where we are: long lockdowns, talks of vax passports everywhere, no herd immunity, covid is here to stay with us (due to animal reservoirs), no overflowing ICUs but still gov'ts reigning with wartime-like superpowers. The fearful/obedient have their vaccine, those who did not will not. Some died, most live. This is no spanish flu. So what was the problem again?

by seoaeu 5y ago

menduza23 5y ago

What makes those angry people who have been in lockdown for so long think that taking the vaccine will allow us go back to normal? See these articles: https://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-14-israelis-who-got-3rd-shot-later-infected-with-covid-19/amp/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-14-israelis-who-got-3rd-sho... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-21/science-can-t-keep-up-with-virus-creating-worry-for-vaccinated https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-21/science-c...

seoaeu 5y ago
> "Limited data not enough to draw conclusions" Media fearmongering about Delta doesn't change anything. The reality is that places which have very high vaccination rates have been able to return much more to normal. And all evidence points to the more people get vaccinated, the sooner things will return entirely to normal
- menduza23 5y ago
  Keen to see some proof of that?

menduza23 5y ago

People say "trust the science". But I've seen no proof that this vaccine works. In fact no you need a third shot to combat the delta variant yet I've seen no proof that people who've had the third shot can't get the delta variant. Its sad to think people believe the lies the government and media is telling them. Saying "take the vaccine then we can all go back to normal" is like saying "the lockdown will only be two weeks long". The goal posts keep shifting. The government will never stop taking away your freedom and spreading lies to push this agenda.

cies 5y ago

To my best knowledge anti-vaxxer did not mess things up, govt+pharma promissed did. They start with: just a few weak to ease the curve, never a vax passport, vaccines create herd immunity and we can kick covids ass. Now where we are: long lockdowns, talks of vax passports everywhere, no herd immunity, covid is here to stay with us (due to animal reservoirs), no overflowing ICUs but still gov'ts reigning with wartime-like superpowers. The fearful/obedient have their vaccine, those who did not will not. Some died, most live. This is no spanish flu. So what was the problem again?