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> until the virus is eradicated But doesn't COVID have animal reservoirs? If it does, good luck vaccinating all the bats and monkeys of the world. Or what's th

by ilammy 5y ago

> until the virus is eradicated But doesn't COVID have animal reservoirs? If it does, good luck vaccinating all the bats and monkeys of the world. Or what's the plan there? Wait until the virus has subsided “enough”, then... what exactly? Still be on guard 24/7/365/4, paranoidally testing each and every traveler, ready to quench a cluster formed around some volunteer returning from a distant part of the world?

HarryHirsch 5y ago
Nonpharmaceutical interventions work pretty good. Plague is endemic in rodents in the Western US, there are actually a dozen human cases every year, but there aren't epidemics because we do rodent-proofing. Rabies has an animal reservoir, but we vaccinate our dogs. Honestly, I don't understand the appeal of the ostrich strategy. Vaccination rates in Florida and Illinois are similar but in Florida, where they pretend Covid doesn't exist, the only thing they get is overflowing hospitals.
- ilammy 5y ago
  I'm more talking about some humans getting infected somewhere, then bringing it in from wherever they were, where precautions are lower than where you came from. The way I see it, the long-term route is treating COVID like, say, malaria. You would get your vaccine when you travel places. Doctors would know what to test for based on your symptoms. But still, the contagiousness here is radically different. By the time you get to see your doctor, you could have infected dozens of people. So the most effective strategy is still isolation and pervasive testing? IDK, I guess we will just have to sit there and see where we'll be with COVID in 5 years from now. Maybe the virus will really just get bored and go away (unlikely). If not, maybe people will get bored of being freaked out and more comfortable with the thought that electing a new government won't eradicate the virus but you can build more hospitals and keep getting your yearly COVID booster shots.
  - erhk 5y ago
    Maybe if the chinese keep their same lockdown and close their border indefinitely, or maybe for new zealand this is the case but for countries in the EU and NA the cats out of the bag and it wont ever be eradicated. I dont know who told you eradication was still an option but it stopped being one in feburary of 2020 when nCov19 started commmunal spreading. This. Does not. Go. Away.

by ilammy 5y ago

HarryHirsch 5y ago

Nonpharmaceutical interventions work pretty good. Plague is endemic in rodents in the Western US, there are actually a dozen human cases every year, but there aren't epidemics because we do rodent-proofing. Rabies has an animal reservoir, but we vaccinate our dogs. Honestly, I don't understand the appeal of the ostrich strategy. Vaccination rates in Florida and Illinois are similar but in Florida, where they pretend Covid doesn't exist, the only thing they get is overflowing hospitals.

ilammy 5y ago
I'm more talking about some humans getting infected somewhere, then bringing it in from wherever they were, where precautions are lower than where you came from. The way I see it, the long-term route is treating COVID like, say, malaria. You would get your vaccine when you travel places. Doctors would know what to test for based on your symptoms. But still, the contagiousness here is radically different. By the time you get to see your doctor, you could have infected dozens of people. So the most effective strategy is still isolation and pervasive testing? IDK, I guess we will just have to sit there and see where we'll be with COVID in 5 years from now. Maybe the virus will really just get bored and go away (unlikely). If not, maybe people will get bored of being freaked out and more comfortable with the thought that electing a new government won't eradicate the virus but you can build more hospitals and keep getting your yearly COVID booster shots.
- erhk 5y ago
  Maybe if the chinese keep their same lockdown and close their border indefinitely, or maybe for new zealand this is the case but for countries in the EU and NA the cats out of the bag and it wont ever be eradicated. I dont know who told you eradication was still an option but it stopped being one in feburary of 2020 when nCov19 started commmunal spreading. This. Does not. Go. Away.