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Honestly for me it is: - Follows the ecmascript standard and supports browser apis - No npm, no Microsoft lock-in - So far, no political bs like node has had

FaisalAbid 5y ago
Is Deno ready for production? What limitations have you run into?
- lucacasonato 5y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28131876 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28131876
- ecmascript 5y ago
  > Is Deno ready for production? Yes. > What limitations have you run into? Libraries that exist for node that can't easily be ported over that don't yet exist for Deno. But that is basically it. In the beginning it was a bit hard to keep up with the rapid changes as well but that seems like a positve thing anyway.
- croes 5y ago
  No deno native MS SQL support
- chovybizzass 5y ago
  Most of the 3rd party modules have been abandoned.
dmitriid 5y ago
> No npm You still need packages > no Microsoft lock-in Does Deno implement its own TypeScript compiler? Even if it does, it's entirely at the mercy of Microsoft who are the only ones who develop Typescript specs.
- ecmascript 5y ago
  > You still need packages Yes but with ES modules you can just import them straight into the code and there is really no need for a package manager. > Does Deno implement its own TypeScript compiler? Even if it does, it's entirely at the mercy of Microsoft who are the only ones who develop Typescript specs. This may be somewhat true. However I am not using typescript so I am not really sure about this. My point is not really tied to the language typescript which I am sure will continue just fine. What I am much more worried about is all the packages hosted on npm. At any time Microsoft could do something to restrict it in ways I can't control. Highly unlikely that something extreme will happen perhaps, but I don't trust Microsoft enough. For example, I could easily see them forcing everyone to use github for node packages in the future etc.
  - dmitriid 5y ago
    > you can just import them straight into the code "Just import them". From where? > What I am much more worried about is all the packages hosted on npm. At any time Microsoft could do something So, how does deno help?
    - ecmascript 5y ago
      From anywhere on the internet. > So, how does deno help? By decentralizing the package hosting.
      - dmitriid 5y ago
        > From anywhere on the internet. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28284930 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28284930 > By decentralizing the package hosting. These are empty words that literally mean nothing. The rest is at the link so as not to have the same conversation in several places.
        ecmascript 5y ago
        > Which url? How do I find this URL? What happens when that package specified dependencies? Litterally anywhere. On Github, on the Deno webpage, in a slack chat message. It is how the browsers has worked for ages and there's never been any issues with that. If the package has deps Deno will download them too in the same manner. It also means that if there is any problems or dissatisfaction in how your dependencies are hosted you are free to change it to another hosting solution. > These are empty words that literally mean nothing. The rest is at the link so as not to have the same conversation in several places. What do you mean it doesn't mean anything? It means that there is not one single place where you have to get your dependencies from. You may think of it as something negative, but I think it's great.

FaisalAbid 5y ago

Is Deno ready for production? What limitations have you run into?

lucacasonato 5y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28131876 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28131876
ecmascript 5y ago
> Is Deno ready for production? Yes. > What limitations have you run into? Libraries that exist for node that can't easily be ported over that don't yet exist for Deno. But that is basically it. In the beginning it was a bit hard to keep up with the rapid changes as well but that seems like a positve thing anyway.
croes 5y ago
No deno native MS SQL support
chovybizzass 5y ago
Most of the 3rd party modules have been abandoned.

dmitriid 5y ago

> No npm You still need packages > no Microsoft lock-in Does Deno implement its own TypeScript compiler? Even if it does, it's entirely at the mercy of Microsoft who are the only ones who develop Typescript specs.

ecmascript 5y ago
> You still need packages Yes but with ES modules you can just import them straight into the code and there is really no need for a package manager. > Does Deno implement its own TypeScript compiler? Even if it does, it's entirely at the mercy of Microsoft who are the only ones who develop Typescript specs. This may be somewhat true. However I am not using typescript so I am not really sure about this. My point is not really tied to the language typescript which I am sure will continue just fine. What I am much more worried about is all the packages hosted on npm. At any time Microsoft could do something to restrict it in ways I can't control. Highly unlikely that something extreme will happen perhaps, but I don't trust Microsoft enough. For example, I could easily see them forcing everyone to use github for node packages in the future etc.
- dmitriid 5y ago
  > you can just import them straight into the code "Just import them". From where? > What I am much more worried about is all the packages hosted on npm. At any time Microsoft could do something So, how does deno help?
  - ecmascript 5y ago
    From anywhere on the internet. > So, how does deno help? By decentralizing the package hosting.
    - dmitriid 5y ago
      > From anywhere on the internet. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28284930 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28284930 > By decentralizing the package hosting. These are empty words that literally mean nothing. The rest is at the link so as not to have the same conversation in several places.
      - ecmascript 5y ago
        > Which url? How do I find this URL? What happens when that package specified dependencies? Litterally anywhere. On Github, on the Deno webpage, in a slack chat message. It is how the browsers has worked for ages and there's never been any issues with that. If the package has deps Deno will download them too in the same manner. It also means that if there is any problems or dissatisfaction in how your dependencies are hosted you are free to change it to another hosting solution. > These are empty words that literally mean nothing. The rest is at the link so as not to have the same conversation in several places. What do you mean it doesn't mean anything? It means that there is not one single place where you have to get your dependencies from. You may think of it as something negative, but I think it's great.