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Christ, what a nightmare. I'm lucky I guess in that my mouse preference is actually the Apple mouse. I've tried a bunch of others of the years and keep coming

Christ, what a nightmare. I'm lucky I guess in that my mouse preference is actually the Apple mouse. I've tried a bunch of others of the years and keep coming back to it. I'm definitely aware of the shitshow that is peripheral drivers. It's always been bad, but now it's just awful awful awful. Even if someone introduced a mouse that appealed to me, I'd be hard pressed to bother given my suspicion that the software required would be terrible.

SOLAR_FIELDS 5y ago
Are you referring to the default Apple corded mouse they ship with iMacs or the Magic Mouse? Magic Mouse is nice, but of course isn’t for everyone. I have it for my dev machines but trying to use it for playing most types of reaction style games is a nightmare. BootCamp driver compatibility is also not really there. I have never been able to get my Magic Mouse to scroll using the touch motion on Windows, for instance.
- robin_reala 5y ago
  Apple hasn’t shipped a corded mouse for four years.
  - spijdar 5y ago
    For anyone else momentarily confused by this, they stopped selling the last corded mouse four years ago, but haven't bundled a corded mouse with any computer since 2009 AFAIK. Which makes the comment about "corded mouse they ship with iMacs" feel even older.
    - SOLAR_FIELDS 5y ago
      Interesting, I could have sworn they were bundling the corded mouse with iMacs circa 2015. Are you sure about your comment about bundling? In any event, yes I did not know they stopped shipping them but that is only a good thing. I think the polite way to describe the quality of those mice is not very good. Several more impolite terms come to mind.
      - spijdar 5y ago
        I'm not certain, but I believe they started shipping the flat magic mouse, er, mice with the 2009 iMacs and 2010 Mac Pros. Unless you only got the magic mouse with an upcharge? That could be the case, although I think it was standard. I traded my own iMac in a few years ago, but got to keep the peripherals. I'm not a huge fan of the, uh, flat ergonomics, but it is an amazing mouse when you need one to throw in a laptop bag, and the sensors are top notch when it comes to actual tracking. If only it came in a more ergonomic shape...
- ubermonkey 5y ago
  As has been copiously pointed out, I don't think a corded mouse has been an option from Apple for a long, long time. I mean the Magic Mouse -- the one that makes some people enraged because you can't use it and charge it at the same time. (Turns out: this is literally never a problem.) Of course, mice (and keyboards, and pens, and notebooks, and and and and and) are intensely personal items, and what works for me is just that: what works for me. I don't really use Windows except in remote desktop sessions, so compatibility with MSFT doesn't matter to me. I don't play games on my computer much anymore, but when I did I used a trackball that, if memory serves, didn't require any drivers.
- tim-- 5y ago
  The latest Bootcamp drivers fix this.
system2 5y ago
Good luck with it when your mouse downloads all your photo library and send it to government, soon.

SOLAR_FIELDS 5y ago

Are you referring to the default Apple corded mouse they ship with iMacs or the Magic Mouse? Magic Mouse is nice, but of course isn’t for everyone. I have it for my dev machines but trying to use it for playing most types of reaction style games is a nightmare. BootCamp driver compatibility is also not really there. I have never been able to get my Magic Mouse to scroll using the touch motion on Windows, for instance.

robin_reala 5y ago
Apple hasn’t shipped a corded mouse for four years.
- spijdar 5y ago
  For anyone else momentarily confused by this, they stopped selling the last corded mouse four years ago, but haven't bundled a corded mouse with any computer since 2009 AFAIK. Which makes the comment about "corded mouse they ship with iMacs" feel even older.
  - SOLAR_FIELDS 5y ago
    Interesting, I could have sworn they were bundling the corded mouse with iMacs circa 2015. Are you sure about your comment about bundling? In any event, yes I did not know they stopped shipping them but that is only a good thing. I think the polite way to describe the quality of those mice is not very good. Several more impolite terms come to mind.
    - spijdar 5y ago
      I'm not certain, but I believe they started shipping the flat magic mouse, er, mice with the 2009 iMacs and 2010 Mac Pros. Unless you only got the magic mouse with an upcharge? That could be the case, although I think it was standard. I traded my own iMac in a few years ago, but got to keep the peripherals. I'm not a huge fan of the, uh, flat ergonomics, but it is an amazing mouse when you need one to throw in a laptop bag, and the sensors are top notch when it comes to actual tracking. If only it came in a more ergonomic shape...
ubermonkey 5y ago
As has been copiously pointed out, I don't think a corded mouse has been an option from Apple for a long, long time. I mean the Magic Mouse -- the one that makes some people enraged because you can't use it and charge it at the same time. (Turns out: this is literally never a problem.) Of course, mice (and keyboards, and pens, and notebooks, and and and and and) are intensely personal items, and what works for me is just that: what works for me. I don't really use Windows except in remote desktop sessions, so compatibility with MSFT doesn't matter to me. I don't play games on my computer much anymore, but when I did I used a trackball that, if memory serves, didn't require any drivers.
tim-- 5y ago
The latest Bootcamp drivers fix this.

system2 5y ago

Good luck with it when your mouse downloads all your photo library and send it to government, soon.