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Tesla can generate whole lot of static 3D world data location wise that can be precompute so that the car computer only have to augment it with dynamic data and

Tesla can generate whole lot of static 3D world data location wise that can be precompute so that the car computer only have to augment it with dynamic data and hence much less compute requirement.

ricardobeat 5y ago
That's not the approach they are taking though. There are no maps, only the trained NN is deployed to the vehicles. Making the system handle any unpredictable scenario without ever relying on precomputed maps is likely far safer.
- iamgopal 5y ago
  Ok, I hope the black box is working, is there any research for how two trained Neural Network can be merged ?
  - mensetmanusman 5y ago
    If we could do that, could we merge brains?
- krona 5y ago
  Making the system handle any unpredictable scenario without ever relying on precomputed maps is likely far safer. Sounds rather counterintuitive to me. I feel far safer driving on my regular commute because I know where the potholes are, where the blind junctions are despite the missing signs. I know exactly how fast I can go around the roundabout built with a ridiculous camber in wet weather that sends many people in to the ditch every year. etc. Knowing all this, I can bias my attention to the cars/people around me rather than the environment.
  - moogly 5y ago
    There are 0-day no maps for potholes. There are no 0-day maps for temporarily disabled traffic lights, road construction, accidents etc. It takes at least decade to build up something like Google Maps, but a lot of the data is already out-of-date.
    - dwighttk 5y ago
      Sure… so OP biases his attention to cars/people/any unexpected changes to the route…
    - cainxinth 5y ago
      Yes, but a lot also rarely changes. I wonder if they ever considered a hybrid approach that uses some of the more stable map data as a default which can be overridden by the computer vision system.
      - adolph 5y ago
        Route not drive
      - marvin 5y ago
        I reckon Tesla will eventually do this, and also eventually incorporate LIDAR. But they're attacking the hardest problem first (in the sense of "no one knows how to do this").
  - panick21 5y ago
    They do use maps but not HD maps.

Tesla can generate whole lot of static 3D world data location wise that can be precompute so that the car computer only have to augment it with dynamic data and hence much less compute requirement.

ricardobeat 5y ago

That's not the approach they are taking though. There are no maps, only the trained NN is deployed to the vehicles. Making the system handle any unpredictable scenario without ever relying on precomputed maps is likely far safer.

iamgopal 5y ago
Ok, I hope the black box is working, is there any research for how two trained Neural Network can be merged ?
- mensetmanusman 5y ago
  If we could do that, could we merge brains?
krona 5y ago
Making the system handle any unpredictable scenario without ever relying on precomputed maps is likely far safer. Sounds rather counterintuitive to me. I feel far safer driving on my regular commute because I know where the potholes are, where the blind junctions are despite the missing signs. I know exactly how fast I can go around the roundabout built with a ridiculous camber in wet weather that sends many people in to the ditch every year. etc. Knowing all this, I can bias my attention to the cars/people around me rather than the environment.
- moogly 5y ago
  There are 0-day no maps for potholes. There are no 0-day maps for temporarily disabled traffic lights, road construction, accidents etc. It takes at least decade to build up something like Google Maps, but a lot of the data is already out-of-date.
  - dwighttk 5y ago
    Sure… so OP biases his attention to cars/people/any unexpected changes to the route…
  - cainxinth 5y ago
    Yes, but a lot also rarely changes. I wonder if they ever considered a hybrid approach that uses some of the more stable map data as a default which can be overridden by the computer vision system.
    - adolph 5y ago
      Route not drive
    - marvin 5y ago
      I reckon Tesla will eventually do this, and also eventually incorporate LIDAR. But they're attacking the hardest problem first (in the sense of "no one knows how to do this").
- panick21 5y ago
  They do use maps but not HD maps.