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“Wide FSD beta in two weeks”, my ass. Tesla is at least a decade away from the shit Elon is tweeting about. Plan your next car purchases accordingly. Sincere

“Wide FSD beta in two weeks”, my ass. Tesla is at least a decade away from the shit Elon is tweeting about. Plan your next car purchases accordingly. Sincerely, a Model Y owner

tenpies 5y ago
Also: Tesla can make a nice car, but doesn't like doing so very often. Please look up the pre-delivery checklists. Tesla is not like a regular manufacturer where you can walk around a vehicle and determine if you want to accept it. You have to actually test things - even the things that we've been doing right since the Model T. These things are built in tents by staff that is treated quite poorly, and you should be skeptical in proportion to that information. Here is a good example: https://github.com/polymorphic/tesla-model-y-checklist https://github.com/polymorphic/tesla-model-y-checklist Although I noticed it's missing "check that the roof and trunk are in fact water proof". Getting any of these things fixed after you take delivery is a huge PITA.
- jsight 5y ago
  Checklists like that make things sound much worse than they are. Common issues are really minor compared to the things listed there. And, tbh, hang around some forums for the company that has been "doing right since the Model T" and you'll see some of the same things. Roof alignment in particular has been a little bit of a problem for the Mach E. With both companies, there are some horror stories after delivery too. With both companies, the vast majority of cars are great and end up with really happy customers.
- leesec 5y ago
  You're blowing things out if proportio lol. Teslas are extremely loved cars by their owners on average. I doubt they would be so highly rated if they had regular issues are you're suggesting.
- panick21 5y ago
  Model S Plaid just had amazing reviews by pretty much ever reviewer. Check list make sense for all manufactures. > These things are built in tents by staff that is treated quite poorly, and you should be skeptical in proportion to that information. People are obsessed with this tent. Its just a simple stable structure that you can build quickly. It changes nothing about the manufacturing line being in a building. The tend idea was set up when a guy with 30 years of manufacturing experience from BMW and other German car makers. They knew what they were doing, and its actually the cars from the tend that improved the quality problems they had early on. > Getting any of these things fixed after you take delivery is a huge PITA. Most of these things can be fixed by the mobile service, they can do it while your are not even there. Often the fix it while you work.
thepasswordis 5y ago
You should sell your model Y. Not only does it sound like you don’t like it, you can probably turn a profit over your purchase price.
- stetrain 5y ago
  Contrary to popular belief it is quite possible to buy and enjoy a Tesla as a vehicle to drive without buying in to the Full Self Driving promise.
jsight 5y ago
Yeah, the FSD promises are old and annoying. For some of us, we remember the ridiculous claims starting back in at least 2016. I agree with you that noone should buy this car because of "FSD".
stetrain 5y ago
These tech presentations, especially by Karpathy, tend to make me feel overall optimistic about the progress Tesla is making in this space. But then instead of the presentation ending with "And that's why we're confident in our 5-10 year roadmap to Level 5 Autonomy" they end with Elon tweeting that some beta version is going to roll out to customers in 2-4 weeks and the optimism all comes crashing back down again.
leesec 5y ago
"A decade" is just a random guess by some guy online but fine, I guess I will just switch to buying a different car with FSD instead...

“Wide FSD beta in two weeks”, my ass. Tesla is at least a decade away from the shit Elon is tweeting about. Plan your next car purchases accordingly. Sincerely, a Model Y owner

tenpies 5y ago

Also: Tesla can make a nice car, but doesn't like doing so very often. Please look up the pre-delivery checklists. Tesla is not like a regular manufacturer where you can walk around a vehicle and determine if you want to accept it. You have to actually test things - even the things that we've been doing right since the Model T. These things are built in tents by staff that is treated quite poorly, and you should be skeptical in proportion to that information. Here is a good example: https://github.com/polymorphic/tesla-model-y-checklist https://github.com/polymorphic/tesla-model-y-checklist Although I noticed it's missing "check that the roof and trunk are in fact water proof". Getting any of these things fixed after you take delivery is a huge PITA.

jsight 5y ago
Checklists like that make things sound much worse than they are. Common issues are really minor compared to the things listed there. And, tbh, hang around some forums for the company that has been "doing right since the Model T" and you'll see some of the same things. Roof alignment in particular has been a little bit of a problem for the Mach E. With both companies, there are some horror stories after delivery too. With both companies, the vast majority of cars are great and end up with really happy customers.
leesec 5y ago
You're blowing things out if proportio lol. Teslas are extremely loved cars by their owners on average. I doubt they would be so highly rated if they had regular issues are you're suggesting.
panick21 5y ago
Model S Plaid just had amazing reviews by pretty much ever reviewer. Check list make sense for all manufactures. > These things are built in tents by staff that is treated quite poorly, and you should be skeptical in proportion to that information. People are obsessed with this tent. Its just a simple stable structure that you can build quickly. It changes nothing about the manufacturing line being in a building. The tend idea was set up when a guy with 30 years of manufacturing experience from BMW and other German car makers. They knew what they were doing, and its actually the cars from the tend that improved the quality problems they had early on. > Getting any of these things fixed after you take delivery is a huge PITA. Most of these things can be fixed by the mobile service, they can do it while your are not even there. Often the fix it while you work.

thepasswordis 5y ago

You should sell your model Y. Not only does it sound like you don’t like it, you can probably turn a profit over your purchase price.

stetrain 5y ago
Contrary to popular belief it is quite possible to buy and enjoy a Tesla as a vehicle to drive without buying in to the Full Self Driving promise.

jsight 5y ago

Yeah, the FSD promises are old and annoying. For some of us, we remember the ridiculous claims starting back in at least 2016. I agree with you that noone should buy this car because of "FSD".

stetrain 5y ago

These tech presentations, especially by Karpathy, tend to make me feel overall optimistic about the progress Tesla is making in this space. But then instead of the presentation ending with "And that's why we're confident in our 5-10 year roadmap to Level 5 Autonomy" they end with Elon tweeting that some beta version is going to roll out to customers in 2-4 weeks and the optimism all comes crashing back down again.

leesec 5y ago

"A decade" is just a random guess by some guy online but fine, I guess I will just switch to buying a different car with FSD instead...