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I was also very surprised when I read that it was in Germany. When it comes to police checks, it is important to know your rights: https://anwaltauskunft.de/ma

I was also very surprised when I read that it was in Germany. When it comes to police checks, it is important to know your rights: https://anwaltauskunft.de/magazin/gesellschaft/strafrecht-polizei/was-darf-die-polizei-bei-einer-personenkontrolle?full=1 https://anwaltauskunft.de/magazin/gesellschaft/strafrecht-po... The police is not allowed to discriminate against you just because you look foreign. Always demand that they tell you why you were stopped and that they show their badge. When it comes to racists, I personally would reply with irony and humor to make them look silly. But ignoring them can also be a viable strategy.

ajuc 5y ago
Eastern Germany is very racist. I'm white and I repeatedly got "the looks" when I spoke Polish on a trip there. Not like Poland is better, but somehow people don't expect it in Germany.
- atoav 5y ago
  I think it depends entirely on where you are in Germany, like everywhere you have more tolerant places and more intolerant places. Curiously the places with the least foreigners are the most xenophobic ones and vice versa.
  - jee1shi 5y ago
    > Curiously the places with the least foreigners are the most xenophobic ones and vice versa. That's actually the standard. It's easy to be xenophobic when someone has very little exposure to other cultures. Once they get exposed over a long period of time, people realise that they are just people too.
    - LudwigNagasena 5y ago
      It’s also easy to be tolerant towards someone you don’t have to interact with. Once you get exposed to other cultures you realize that they are different.
      - blowski 5y ago
        I guess the realisation we're talking about is going from thinking "they eat human babies" to "they drink different types of tea".
        galfarragem 5y ago
        I would say that is more like different cultures have different values: Different ways of treating women, different ways of treating animals, different ways of treating the ambient, different ways of looking at work, different ways of looking at state, different ways of looking at religion, different ways of looking at morals, different ways of looking at neighbors, different ways of looking at property, different ways of looking at mating (...) While elites from any culture may be open minded and flexible, the average individual is not. Elites may thrive in a multicultural society but the other incumbents don't. It's not surprising when they idolize any politician that respect them.
        blowski 5y ago
        I agree with you in part, particularly with why there has been a backlash against multiculturalism. Also with the reality that different cultures tend to have different views to a wide range of issues. But I’m not sure what you mean by elite. Donald Trump and the whole modern Republican Party are the elites, and I wouldn’t describe them as flexible and open-minded.
    - blowski 5y ago
      Exactly. When your main exposure to other cultures is via tabloid media versions of those cultures, it's not surprising that you believe strange things about them.
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rjzzleep 5y ago
Police doesn't care. It's also illegal to discriminate and you can technically call the police when people do it, but they either don't come or will question you instead. "What did you do that they would do this". And don't let anyone fool you into thinking that this is an eastern Germany problem. I grew up in one of the largest cities in the West, don't come from africa and have been told to go back where I came from plenty of times(which is actually amusing considering my background), have been assaulted by security people, peppersprayed by elderly men, etc. There are also some EU laws that actually make the random checks somewhat legal. Don't forget that Germany is the place that happily called for solidarity with BLM movement by the same people that would call Chinese "ching chang chung" on national television. Sure they don't shoot you, but they will make sure you have as little upward mobility as possible. A lot of Africans that I know, take the University education from Germany and then move the US or Canada when they get the chance. You will rarely see any people of colour in leadership positions in Germany, heck there are hardly even eastern Germans in leadership positions in publicly listed German companies. As much as I dislike a lot of things about the US at least in the professional sense you are treated with respect if you're good at what you do. EDIT: oh and if you want to see what Bavarian police thinks of immigrants maybe took a look at some of the drawings in the police calendar. https://taz.de/picture/224461/948/gdp_kalender2.jpg https://taz.de/picture/224461/948/gdp_kalender2.jpg https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/img/incoming/crop19022901/2489716611-cv3_2-w940/DPolG-Karikaturenkalender-2012-2.jpg https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/img/incoming/crop190229...

ajuc 5y ago

Eastern Germany is very racist. I'm white and I repeatedly got "the looks" when I spoke Polish on a trip there. Not like Poland is better, but somehow people don't expect it in Germany.

atoav 5y ago
I think it depends entirely on where you are in Germany, like everywhere you have more tolerant places and more intolerant places. Curiously the places with the least foreigners are the most xenophobic ones and vice versa.
- jee1shi 5y ago
  > Curiously the places with the least foreigners are the most xenophobic ones and vice versa. That's actually the standard. It's easy to be xenophobic when someone has very little exposure to other cultures. Once they get exposed over a long period of time, people realise that they are just people too.
  - LudwigNagasena 5y ago
    It’s also easy to be tolerant towards someone you don’t have to interact with. Once you get exposed to other cultures you realize that they are different.
    - blowski 5y ago
      I guess the realisation we're talking about is going from thinking "they eat human babies" to "they drink different types of tea".
      - galfarragem 5y ago
        I would say that is more like different cultures have different values: Different ways of treating women, different ways of treating animals, different ways of treating the ambient, different ways of looking at work, different ways of looking at state, different ways of looking at religion, different ways of looking at morals, different ways of looking at neighbors, different ways of looking at property, different ways of looking at mating (...) While elites from any culture may be open minded and flexible, the average individual is not. Elites may thrive in a multicultural society but the other incumbents don't. It's not surprising when they idolize any politician that respect them.
        blowski 5y ago
        I agree with you in part, particularly with why there has been a backlash against multiculturalism. Also with the reality that different cultures tend to have different views to a wide range of issues. But I’m not sure what you mean by elite. Donald Trump and the whole modern Republican Party are the elites, and I wouldn’t describe them as flexible and open-minded.
  - blowski 5y ago
    Exactly. When your main exposure to other cultures is via tabloid media versions of those cultures, it's not surprising that you believe strange things about them.
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rjzzleep 5y ago

Police doesn't care. It's also illegal to discriminate and you can technically call the police when people do it, but they either don't come or will question you instead. "What did you do that they would do this". And don't let anyone fool you into thinking that this is an eastern Germany problem. I grew up in one of the largest cities in the West, don't come from africa and have been told to go back where I came from plenty of times(which is actually amusing considering my background), have been assaulted by security people, peppersprayed by elderly men, etc. There are also some EU laws that actually make the random checks somewhat legal. Don't forget that Germany is the place that happily called for solidarity with BLM movement by the same people that would call Chinese "ching chang chung" on national television. Sure they don't shoot you, but they will make sure you have as little upward mobility as possible. A lot of Africans that I know, take the University education from Germany and then move the US or Canada when they get the chance. You will rarely see any people of colour in leadership positions in Germany, heck there are hardly even eastern Germans in leadership positions in publicly listed German companies. As much as I dislike a lot of things about the US at least in the professional sense you are treated with respect if you're good at what you do. EDIT: oh and if you want to see what Bavarian police thinks of immigrants maybe took a look at some of the drawings in the police calendar. https://taz.de/picture/224461/948/gdp_kalender2.jpg https://taz.de/picture/224461/948/gdp_kalender2.jpg https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/img/incoming/crop19022901/2489716611-cv3_2-w940/DPolG-Karikaturenkalender-2012-2.jpg https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/img/incoming/crop190229...