The US gov already has access to all the photos on iCloud, can already force Apple to seed backdoors here and there and forbid them to disclose the request. We

The US gov already has access to all the photos on iCloud, can already force Apple to seed backdoors here and there and forbid them to disclose the request. We had the FBI case where Apple refused to cooperate, but it only stops there because there was other ways to do get to the same result. So the basic premise of this discussion is that the US gov isn't already abusing its power to snoop on everybody all the time. If we give up this premise, all the discussions make a lot less sense and we're just arguing about different ways to access the same data. (credits to John Siracusa on ATP for wording very clearly this elephant in the room)